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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/16162455

How Russia is Influencing US Voters. Russian Intelligence Document "Guerrilla Media Campaign in the US" [Translated] Page 5

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https://www.justice.gov/d9/2024-09/exhibits_9a_and_9b.pdf

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[–] kinther@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm not defending their actions. I'm pointing out that there are those that astroturf social media that -only ever point out the negatives of one major political party while completely ignoring the other-.

So since you seem to be reasonable despite your satire and snark, what do you think about the Republicans and how they would handle the ongoing genocide?

Or will you prove my point again for me?

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's just no point in criticizing the Republican party. Their supporters don't use forums like this. They almost never leave their respective bubbles. It's the equivalent of screaming into the void. Republicans bad, Democrats good is one of the oldest forms of online circlejerking. It's a complete waste of time and effort. Yes, they would likely handle the genocide as poorly or worse than Democrats have so far. If that's your only point, you're only bringing attention to something that everyone already knows. It's so obvious that it doesn't even need to be said.

The two mainstream political parties in the US exist on an extremely narrow spectrum. Both are neoliberal in philosophy and generally right of center economically. Only the Democrats lean left in social issues, but I find any support there to be completely nullified and undermined by their demented economic policies and rabid war hawking.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I disagree that leaving things unsaid is the best approach to online discussion, especially when it comes to soundbite level social media like Lemmy and Reddit. Doing this puts forth the position that only one thing needs to be said, which is underhanded and intellectually dishonest.

You're absolutely right that both mainstream parties in the US are closely related in policy, so it is a failure of those arguing against the Israeli genocide to not call this what it is: a governmental policy problem, not a single party problem. Saying "democrat bad, support Israeli genocide" while ignoring the opposite party just because it is not in power is a failure to point out the root cause of the issue. If we don't want to support any genocide, we need to make sure that no matter what party is in power, it doesn't happen.

I'll ignore the fact that you disagree with their economic policies for now and continue to focus on the fact that this is a systematic issue, not one that is beholden to one party or the other.