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[–] woop_woop@lemmy.world 146 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (35 children)

Who notices that someone is better at mounting tvs? How does one notice this? What is this made up scenario?

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 98 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Besides watching someone to try to learn, craftsmen can just goon over other's works.

At a job once updating some central lighting control there were some awesome rooms some (probably long retired) electrician had planned and installed. man that shit was so clean. Another time me n another guy were 'mirin this single ¾ conduit bend for 5 minutes.

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 71 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This isn't exactly 100% relevant to your story, but it is related and an anecdote I enjoy sharing.

I recently moved to a small town and hired an electrician to make some changes to my house. After showing him around the house, we went to look at the fuse box to determine what changes could be made.

As we were looking, he said "I know those fuses are original." When I asked how, he pointed at the labels and said "because that's my father's handwriting."

Kinda cool to have a legacy like that. The electrician did do good work, so far as I can tell, so it was likely earned as well.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"because they're fuses instead of breakers"

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Ah yes, that's my fault; my house isn't new, but it's not old enough to use fuses, original or otherwise.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

Another similar example would be guys who look at a picture of a server rack and go "Hnnnng, look at that cable management ohmygod how!?"

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've been contemplating sending a business rival a bottle of whiskey for proper capatilization on the word "FastLane" as well as strict adherence to correct PLU usage in the face of absurd custom store-level PLUs, 100% get it.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should!

Do you have an example of a good and bad PLU, actual if possible?

(I did search engine/LLM it first :) )

[–] ggppjj@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

More that they're using the official IFPS PLUs instead of using the random numbers that this grocery store decided to use.

Bananas are standardized at PLU 4011, but this store has been using PLU 14 out of convenience to them at the expense of government agencies that need the correct numbers to approve purchases made with state-run welfare programs that restrict their use to specific produce items, like WIC.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

Oh that is goofy! And harmful. Thanks

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What made the old electrician's work especially clean or notable? Just curious what caught your eye as I'm someone not in that industry

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hmm, i used to have pics. Hard to describe with words. Beyond the beautifully square pipe runs and can punches he had a kinda signature with his sweeps and the rooms he musta done looked like he had made a master plan rather than just making it work. Oh and very little evidence of covered up mistakes (short pieces of conduit) that youd maybe only notice if you were doing demo anyway.

We would wonder who this dude was cuz there were like...a lot of rooms he had a hand in in this building. His clean work trademark was one thing, but we never knew for sure it was one of his until we'd pull the old cabinets to find his other trademark, peurile cartoons about how he really felt about his boss.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Man that's amazing, if you ever do find pics of his cartoons or work and want to comment them, I'd love to see them. It's incredible how we touch past lives like that.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Not the person you're responding to, but an electrician as well. The difference between someone who just showed up to get it running and get paid versus the ones who take time to sinch as close to perfect as possible are night and day. A good installation would have the basics like clean pipe runs, level cans and boxes, minimal mistakes (extended conduits, plugged holes in boxes where someone mismeasured, no missing parts, etc). The perfection guys go beyond by having everything laser level with themselves (pipes, boxes, etc), thoughtful layout to make working on it easier, forethought with layout as far as system expansion and futures, sometimes even sizing pipes and boxes a little bigger to accommodate future additions, and often just the little simple details like aligning screw heads where you can tell that the original installer really took their time and had passion for doing things right. Especially compared to installs where it's a pain to try and do anything and you're basically putting lipstick on a pig, it's always a wonderful treat to work on something where someone really gave a shit.

[–] QuantumSparkles@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

Now when you say goon

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Professional handymen, electronics installers, contractors, people who do this kind of thing for a living.

[–] Mr_Blott@feddit.uk 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm one of those. Anyone else think it looks a tiny bit higher on the right hand side? Lol

[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 months ago

I think it's pretty hard to judge by eye, at an angle, in a poor quality picture.

But I'm also not a professional, nor was I answering a question about this particular mount's levelness.

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[–] DasAlbatross@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Better work with the cabling, perhaps. In this picture you can see that there's a new work box in the drywall so he's running hidden cables. There could be drywall patching or he's really good at making the holes so there doesn't need to be patching.

He could do more types of mounts than this guy is used to.

He could be faster.

Is that you're completely unimaginative so you can't come up with ways someone might be better or do you have so little respect for trades that you think there can't be skill involved?

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[–] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Pros notice tiny details that most people don't even think of.

Maybe they did the job 5 minutes faster or the mount job just looks cleaner than yours.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One example: Check the screws on your electric outlet/light switch faceplates. If the screws are aligned, your electrician gave a shit about their work

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Faceplate screws in places I've worked: | | | | |

Faceplate screws in my own house: | / \ X = √

[–] ByteOnBikes 15 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I see it all the time.

Like someone shares a photo their desk and their setup is so slick. Or someone shows off their kitchen. Those are things I like a lot and want to improve. So rather than scroll past, or leave a hater response, I ask questions to pick up what they're dropping. You can try that.

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[–] ech@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago

Just because you don't do something doesn't mean nobody does. Maybe don't assume something is made up just because you're unfamiliar with it.

[–] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why would you hate on that guy.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago
[–] Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah this is a weird one for sure. I hate to be a "nothing ever happens" person but this one didn't happen like the caption says it did.

[–] burgersc12@mander.xyz 1 points 2 months ago

You don't post videos of your TV mounting skills on Fb??

[–] feedum_sneedson@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Presumably somebody that mounts TVs for a living.

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