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Tesla’s biggest issue is Musk.
Tesla held a commanding lead over the other automakers in the self-driving segment a few years ago. Now they’ve all mostly caught up thanks to Musk’s unhinged firings. Tesla lost some of its best talent for no other reason than not wanting to work for an egomaniacal billionaire nut job.
Tesla needs to fire Musk before he runs it into the ground just like he’s done to Twitter.
They're only ahead of everyone else because they were prepared to release a product that was untested and quite possibly unsafe, whereas the other car manufacturers realized that would be detrimental to their business, both in terms of reputation, and the inevitable lawsuits. Tesla just does whatever though.
Ummm do they? I don't care enough about cars to remember the details, but I'm sure I've heard some controversies about safety for at least a couple of brands
All the other self-driving cars are still very limited in their interactions with the real world. Only allowed in very limited locations and on predefined routes.
Tesla is the only people running self-driving car tech in the wild as far as I'm aware.
Level 4 exists in the form of Waymo, who operate on roads with shoddy regulations (random US municipalities), so probably not proper Level 4. Also exists in Japan, which does have proper regulation but from what I know it's still a pilot.
Level 3, conditional automation, is becoming quite standard in the upper market segment. Things like traffic jam assist: You can actually take your hands off the wheel and eyes off the road, when traffic clears up the car will alert the driver to take over again, or, that failing, pull over on the shoulder and presumably call emergency services.
Tesla's stuff is Level 2, needing constant monitoring by the driver.
This times 50x with SpaceX. There's ample justification to nationalize it at this point with Musk's erratic behavior.
SpaceX still has the benefit of being run by someone who is at least somewhat less unhinged (shotwell)
Well, and neurolink… It is so fascinating but every time musk starts talking again all the hype is lost with all the BS he is talking…
Tesla has never, ever, had anything remotely resembling a lead in autonomous vehicles. The actual AV industry doesn't consider them part of it.
Yes to fuck musk, but also...
"Commanding lead" equals other manufacturers also didn't have a functioning feature (and still don't now).
Because they weren't willing to open themselves up to the lawsuits for rushing a half baked autonomous driving function. Their systems likely work just as well as Tesla's, which is why they wont advertise it as full self driving because it kills people.