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For example workplace harrasment by women towards males like touching or groping being ignored because the victim is male but if it where to happen to a woman by a male the male would be fired

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[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 63 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Just want to let you know that you aren't alone. I have talked to a number of women who advocate for things like DEI and acceptance (which is something I also believe quite strongly in) but often default to preferring more traditional gender norms in dating. When pressed on the issue (not like I'm interrogating them just through normal conversations and getting to know them) they will inevitably say that it is ultimately "just their preference".

What I find so odd about that "preference" is if a man behaves in accordance with the traditional/societal gender norms in the beginning of the courting process, why is it surprising that they do the same thing later in the relationship when it comes to sharing emotional labor or various types of household chores?

I know the below is taking it to a bit of an extreme example but that behavior and "preference" often reminds me the sentiment "the only moral abortion is my abortion". Like I get it, there are a lot of shitty people out there who have no interest in putting in the effort, and they absolutely are not worth the time and effort, but when you do meet someone who is willing to put in that effort, it isn't really fair to treat them like all those other people.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Men are in a kind of catch-22. Women say they want one thing but their actions usually say they want the opposite.

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not really. It's quite easy to understand. They generally want feminism when it benefits them, but traditional gender roles when it benefits them.

I don't blame them though, I also want things that benefit them. But it's a dick move to do it with feminism, which is supposed to mean equality.

It's not equality when they can pick and choose when to be equal.

[–] CybranM@feddit.nu 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn't egalitarianism the term for equality?

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

NGL I searched the term. Egalitarianism is about all people.

Feminism is only about eliminating the unfair inequalities between men and women.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah and then you got the "marrying kind" type of guys who cheat on their wife cause shes "frigid"