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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 330 points 2 months ago (2 children)

On brand. Settings is like control panel but dumber.

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 213 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I love how in settings all the different miuse options are spread out in different places!

Want to change mouse speed, cursor size, and color? We are going on an adventure!

[–] naticus@lemmy.world 90 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even more frustrating is that different releases and builds recategorize where certain settings are entirely. To the point where search is the only reliable way of knowing for sure you'll get to the right place. They haven't changed things too drastically recently but they kept moving shit around in Win10 throughout its lifetime.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago (4 children)

The older and older I get in life, the more and more I want my digital product interfaces to remain as static as possible. I'm not anti new features, but I want the ability to persist the OG interface I'm used to, the state in which I know WHERE things are, and HOW to utilize them.

I don't want app icons to change without my consent. I want zero rebranding, name or color changes. I don't want to be forced to change services due to enshittification, and learn how to fit new ones into my workflows.

One of the core problems with the modern world is confusion of information. Our brains were not designed to handle the infinite layer of abstractions, dozens/hundreds of separate systems, each with potentially hundreds or thousands of different configurations. Every time a major update occurs it breaks my mums tech illiterate brain more and more, and she stops using digital products more and more.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

This is how I feel as a software engineer. I'm sick of learning new libraries every time fashions change.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

My uncle can navigate windows xp with his eyes closed. It took me years to get him there. He was fine with vista and 7. When 8 hit, it was over and it has been since.

This is a religious man who I’ve only ever heard cuss twice in his life before, and they were the milder words. “What the fuck is copy as a path? I’m just trying to copy and paste a file to my Zip drive! I can’t find computer, I can’t find my computer. I can’t find copy and paste! I’m gonna throw this thing across the room! Seriously, show more options? Why not leave the options I’ve had since 1996 where they were? Do people just not copy and paste any more?”

I have given up and I just remote connect and do it for him. He tried for a few years with the “slow down and let me learn” thing but he’s almost 70 and he’s given up.

He calls his usb drives “zip drives”. He was the only person I knew who had an actual Zip drive when I was a kid and I loved it.

[–] AntY@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

I get the feeling, but in my experience it has more to do with the windows UI actual getting worse. When I use Linux, I’m happy to try out different desktop environments and shells, but they have one thing in common: they have designs that are created more thoughtfully.

It’s not just us growing old, it’s the world of technology growing shittier too!

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I don't care if things stay the same, I just want an intuitive interface.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I bet AI would be helpful here!!

[–] Fetus@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

"I'm New Clippy. I'm here to help you, like it or not!"

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey, Clippy! Change the settings so that I can view hidden files . Clippy: Ok. Shutting down the nuclear reactor.

[–] iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] variants@possumpat.io 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But it was, in fact, terrible, very terrible indeed

Not great, not terrible...

I send the gif of that scene at least once a week at work over teams

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

There a lot of non AI implementations that would be more reliably logical, like presenting options in multiple groups instead of only having a single location buried in submenus.

Like mouse color and size could be in an appearence AND in a general mouse settings that includes mouse appearance and behavior. They could design it so the setting itself is self contained, so it can behave the same way no matter how it is grouped for presentation.

I would expect AI to make up illogical groupings, because it doesn't understand context.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

I believe they were joking since Microsoft is pushing AI into everything these days.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You're not around a lot people that joke, are you?

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 5 points 2 months ago

Ever heard of Poe's Law?

It isn't a story that the Jedi would tell you.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The only benefit is more tightly integrated Powershell commands for some of them... but even that is still lacking in a lot of areas.