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[–] ultramaven@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I also said a century. I mean when was Social Security setup in your country? I don’t think you understand the ideological war being fought in America.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

I mean when was Social Security setup in your country?

So nothing I showed matters, the Red Scare doesn't matter, the current situation doesn't matter, you ignore (willfully) literally everything that proves your sentence to be insanely inaccurate and very ironic.

Most actual paying social security systems started right around WWII. Do you think your "championed for a century" will be correct with the first US social security starting in 1940?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_in_Finland

In the last years of the nineteenth century, Finnish social policy had as its goal the lessening of class friction. The few existing pieces of social legislation addressed the needs of specific groups rather than of society as a whole.

According to the Finnish sociologist Erik Allardt, the hallmark of the Nordic welfare systems is their comprehensiveness. Unlike the welfare systems of the United States or most West European countries, those of the Nordic countries cover the entire population, and they are not limited to those groups unable to care for themselves.

We don't have people (who are employed even) shitting on the streets. We have guaranteed maternity leaves, limitless sick days.

Just how brainwashed or ignorant does one need to be to say the US was more a "champion of socialist policies" than the Nordics...?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_women%27s_suffrage#:~:text=In%201906%2C%20the%20autonomous%20Grand,women%20the%20right%20to%20vote.

In 1906, the autonomous Grand Duchy of Finland, which later became the Republic of Finland, was the first country in the world to give all women and all men both the right to vote and the right to run for office. Finland was also the first country in Europe to give women the right to vote.[5][6] The world's first female members of parliament were elected in Finland the following year.

You still had segregation less than 61 years ago. And still don't have the labour laws that are considered utterly basic in most developed nations.

I do understand the ideological war fought in America, because I exist on the internet and a significant portion of it deals with US politics.

The only reason we're speaking English now is because you only know English. Ie I know more than you and are accommodating your level of knowledge and trying to get you to improve it.