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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So now youre going to dismiss everything you said, and make a new point.

Tell us, oh wise one, why what I just said doesn't compare to other European countries except the UK? Tell me why I don't understand these other countries I've lived? The other comparisons here were France. Tell.me the democratic differences between france and canada? Germany? Spain? Italy?

Or just ridicule yourself again and make a different point.

If youre thinking about sweden and finland, that's not "most european countries".

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Oh noo, I ridiculed myself by, um, making a point about what you pointed out in such a civilised manner?

Also what new point?
I was reapplying to "the first two points" (labour laws and housing), this is what this whole thread is about.

Otherwise due to historical reasons one could bunch Europe countries in the previous centuries in roughly two groups, one that went way into what became capitalism (mostly fueled & sustained by colonialism) and the other bunch that invested into state socialism (what Bismarck did or his vision was & countries modeled their policies by). Ofc there were wars, rise & fall of dictatorships/one-party systems, and each country is a separate unique story with its own nuances, but the general division kinda stayed (it's hard to take away rights from people) and is still evident: wiki/List_of_countries_by_social_welfare_spending.

It makes all the difference how the policies are implemented and used. Like 'how much' social security covers, how much is done on housing policies/projects, etc. Or - eg payed maternity (or even sick) leave, sure you can group by 'can has' and 'can not has', but a difference between one week and year(s) is basically a different system and culture altogether. I mention this specifically as iirc Canada generally takes care of it's moms to come slightly closer to what your are saying in and effort to be good at communicating & not leaving (accidentally) negative feelings all around.
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[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Cmon buddy. You went from saying the US and Canada are the same shade of grey and not comparable to europe. Then you said "comparable to UK maybe". And now we're arguing what defines europe and what amount of weeks defines maternity leave.

This is called moving the goalpost, and youve done it enough lmao.

Go away now, you aren't making arguments in good faith

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Lol, my bad, Canada is Europe and is of yellow shade, I apologise, your intellect is so too very superior to mine that I cannot even, please have all the points.

Also its called a soccer-post over here in Europe.
But over in England they call it grey-goal-post.