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From this post (https://sopuli.xyz/post/15865566) on !AskMbin@fedia.io

It’s very likely related, but we also figured out that both of debounced’s (the admin of kbin.run) accounts on GitHub and Matrix were deleted last night. So there is a possibility that kbin.run is no more.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Yikes. Always sad / concerning to see an instance (and its admins) just drop off the map w/o warning.

The GH and Matrix accounts disappearing is also telling. The DNS record for kbin.run is no longer found at all, so that indicates the owner deliberately deleted it rather than just shutting off the servers. Had the Github account remained active, I'd suspect something more benign like issues with their registrar,. But with the GH account deleting too, I'm leaning toward some kind of intentional scuttle (don't want to even speculate on why since there's nowhere near sufficient information to even guess).

Not sure what their Matrix handle/homeserver was, but if they hosted it under the same domain, it would make sense for that to disappear too if there were registrar issues. Again, the GH deletion seems to be the telling factor.

Amusingly, this comment from Elevator7009 one week ago seems to have aged like milk: https://lemmy.world/post/18248042 (LW link since the canonical kbin.run one won't work, obv).

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not only did he deleted the domain (records) and his github account. But also I can't find his sponsor pages anymore on buymeacoffee.com or patreon. Meaning he removed everything.

[–] osaerisxero@fedia.io 8 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, I was a member (the only one?) on patreon and all evidence of my membership has vanished. I'm starting to think that self-hosting might be the only real way forward for stability, but I don't know how to replicate the /all/ experience without a swarm of users and their subscriptions adding to my own.

[–] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I would not recommend single user instances in the threadiverse, they just need too many resources just to start out... There are other options available and if you do not trust the people "only" running their servers for 2 years like me and debojnced previously then go to fedia.io their admin has been actively hosting fediverse services for a lot longer

[–] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What is your definition of "too many resources"? Because running a Lemmy instance surely takes less server power than something like Mastodon, and you can find managed providers for Lemmy for ~$10/month.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Hell you can self host using yunohost of you want, although its an old version.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 months ago

Used fedia today, and it looks like they never quite nailed down their 504 problem, so I think I'll give this one a go for a while.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's showing indeed the limitations of the activitypub protocol. I'm promoting decentralization, so feel free to run your own instance. Just know that it will take some time, effort and most likely some money.

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 3 months ago

Happily, the costs (server/hypervisor, domain, static IPs, proper firewall) are ones I already needed to spend for work, so the only tricky part will be finding the time and making the effort. Maybe by then the ux issues with low population instances will be sorted lmao.

[–] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

matrix was on matrix.org. Though I doubt it is an intentional takeoff I had a conversation with them just yesterday and there weren't any signs of any of that....

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ah, okay. I looked at their profile, but it didn't list a Matrix username (or at least, that didn't federate to me if there was one).

I'm trying very hard not to speculate (and hoping an explanation eventually comes to light), but it's just weird and concerning to see someone (and their instance) just drop off the map like that.

[–] BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah, though I am rather worrying than speculating tbh. We both worked on mbin and I liked working with them. So I am just super duper confused 😅 And they were active on GitHub in the last days (and yesterday) so yeah... Dunno

[–] ByteOnBikes 1 points 3 months ago

Silly question.

Why?And how much does it cost to run a Lemmy instance that size?

The one reason I don't want to do it is because I'm not interested in the drama side of moderating.