solarpunk memes

3005 readers

186 users here now

For when you need a laugh!

The definition of a "meme" here is intentionally pretty loose. Images, screenshots, and the like are welcome!

But, keep it lighthearted and/or within our server's ideals.

Posts and comments that are hateful, trolling, inciting, and/or overly negative will be removed at the moderators' discretion.

Please follow all slrpnk.net rules and community guidelines

Have fun!

founded 2 years ago

MODERATORS

ex_06

tsugu

Track_Shovel

979

Possible causes of your problems... (slrpnk.net)

submitted 4 months ago by poVoq to c/memes

82 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] stabby_cicada 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

So y'all don't see a connection with overwhelmed local community infrastructure, the lack of affordable housing, not investing in enough in schools and healthcare, and a tidal wave of immigrants at ridiculously high levels?

No. I don't.

The problem is not immigrants.

The problem is a broken government system that fails to allocate resources effectively.

The problem is whole ass political parties are incentivized to keep the system broken so they can blame immigrants and leftists/liberals and get votes.

I mean, if you make it illegal for an undocumented immigrant to get a driver's license, you don't get to complain that undocumented immigrants are driving without licenses. If you make it illegal for undocumented immigrants to work legal jobs, you can't complain that undocumented immigrants are working under the table for sketchy employers at shit wages. You know?

[+] Kaboom@reddthat.com -7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's only so many resources, no country can take millions of people in a single year and ramp up quickly enough to handle them.

[–] stabby_cicada 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I disagree. Countries don't have to "handle" people. Most people can handle themselves - if the laws and government allow it. Immigrants don't want to live in poverty and dependent on welfare any more than citizens do. They want to work, they want to have homes, they want to support themselves and their families. And if they get forced into accepting welfare or engaging in illegal work or criminal activity, it's because a broken immigration system doesn't allow them to live or work legally.

Ninety percent of the "border crisis" in the US or the "refugee crisis" in Europe could be solved if countries just let people in and gave them work permits.

Some people need help, I realize. And if social services in Western countries weren't so overloaded and underfunded by bad government policies they'd have room to help immigrants as well.

I mean, one in three calories produced in the United States is thrown away. Wasted. When you complain about food banks being overloaded by hungry immigrants, don't blame the immigrants, blame the stores that dump millions of dollars of product straight into dumpsters covered with bleach, and the laws that allow it.

Ten percent of homes in the United States are vacant. When you complain about housing costs being driven up by immigration, don't blame the immigrants, blame the landlords who let houses and apartments sit empty to keep rents high, and the laws that allow it.

And so on and so forth. If immigrants are "straining" our systems - and that strain has been much exaggerated in the media - it's not because we don't have enough resources. It's because we badly mismanage the resources we have. It's not a resource issue, it's a policy issue.