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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/1278678

From https://sh.itjust.works/post/1278677

plant-based foods emit fewer greenhouse gases than meat and dairy, regardless of how they are produced.

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[–] dillekant 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is a "yes and" thing. The main thing is not to guilt yourself over it. It's hard to make a change, but every positive change is just positive full stop. Try and have a vegetarian breakfast. When you're managing that, try and have meat once a day. Just keep on doing little things. Yes, also vote, the vast majority of emissions happen due to what happens at the ballot box, but every little bit counts if you think of it positively rather than negatively.

I think that's where the "it's the industry's fault" bit comes from. It's not you personally who have to make all of the changes, but you can make some changes and it's a positive thing.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO: I've done my fair share. I'm on my 3rd Honda Civic since '98. Have had a reusable grocery bag for at least 10 years.

I'm done with any more "activism" behavior.

[–] dillekant 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the heck kind of Martin Luther King Honda Civic are you driving?

Anyway, my point was that you should set reasonable goals for yourself and celebrate them, because they are good. Like I'm a vegetarian, and I'm trying to reduce my milk product consumption. It's all part of living a happy, healthy life, not being part of negative cycles or thought processes.

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm very happy with real milk for my breakfast cereal and a yummy steak when I want.

[–] dillekant 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How would you feel as the price of steak and milk goes up? Would you vote to artificially limit prices? Would you vote to give corporations which make meat more money so they could give you cheaper beef? Heck, those prices are already subsidised by the government. Would you vote to remove those subsidies?

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IDGAF. I'll drink milk & eat meat as long as I don't find it too expensive.

I'm well aware of farm subsidies. Don't agree and then if prices rise above my comfort zone... so be it.

[–] dillekant 2 points 1 year ago

So two follow up questions:

  • If you think the subsidies are bad, what if a party wanted to put on extra taxes due to carbon emissions? Would you vote for them?
  • If so, won't it be harder to break the habit when you're effectively priced out rather than earlier?