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We need to backtrack here so you understand the WHOLE FUCKING POINT, its not what trump said its that they lied/mislead about EVERYTHING trump has to say. Do you understand that you believed that trump recommended putting bleach in people because the corporate media lied about it so much that it turned into a reality in your head? If you dont understand that then you are exactly the person that the media is lying so that they can control you.
Are you trying to suggest that people REALLY were looking into injecting covid patients with disinfectant? If not, then he did lie and mislead people.
I have no idea what they have tried or what works, again that is not the point. The point is that they claimed advocated for a thing that he did not advocate for, and you believed it and repeated it. They won, that was the entire point, you have been controlled.
Oh no, the point is very much that he did lie and make out that they were really looking into injecting disinfectant into people. Its just really inconvenient for the point you're looking to make.
Sorry man but the "Well, I don't know about that but I'll tell you what I do know about....." deflection doesn't work on me either.
We are all controlled. Youre no less subject to it than anyone else. In fact, that you beleive trump isn't far more dishonest and vile than the media is allowed to say tell me that you're more controlled than most
This who long thread was about how the media lies, the bleach thing was just an example of how they claimed or implied he said something he didnt say. There are hundreds more example of this, and if you are fixated on the bleach thing then their lying to you absolutely works.
Tbh, I remember people saying disinfectant at the time.
"A tiny, near insignificant detail seems to have been over exaggerated. Therefore the media always lies about trump."
Yeah, good luck with that.
Disinfectant or bleach is not important, the part about him advocating for putting it in the body is the important part. And yes the corporate media always lies or misleads about trump, if you could take your teams glasses off you would see this. The issue is you are in a cult and just cant.
I see, so you take issue with him being lied about but you don't care that he lied about them researching injecting people with disinfectant?
Tell me more about how im in a cult and you're not....
The issue is that the corporate media lies to you and shapes our government with lies. They do it over and over and over and for some reason you keep believing them.
I am not in a cult because I am not part of your team or the other team or any team for that matter. When someone claims "trump advocating injecting disinfectant", I would "le me see the video" and then I would see they lied.
I don't disagree that they lie. I disagree that they can make trump out to be worse than he is.
No, sorry, you're here being as culty as anyone else.
How is he so bad? Be very direct and specific.
Wow, for someone not on either side, you sure went to that one real fast.
Let me get this straight, you think I have to justify what I think of someone to your satisfaction before deciding if my reasons for me choosing them are good enough for me?
Is that how you see this going?
You said that he is they cant make out trump worse than he already is, they make him out to be a racist, fascist, hitler like figure that is going to end elections. So you much have some really solid things about him that make him "out to be worse than he is."
I'll take that as a "yes, I did expect you to justify your feelings to my personal satisfaction."
He is racist. In fact, his first election campaign was just racism and a magical wall that paid for itself. He acts exactly like a modern "strongman" facsist leader and his policies and attempts to overthrow and circumvent American democracy, such as it is, speaks for themselves. I don't think he's as bad as hitler. At least we can agree on that. Although, I haven't seen any news reports try to make him out to be as bad as hitler.
Lets just take the first claim - "He is racist". You said that with a definitive statement so there has to be definitive proof. Please show me the proof in context please. Thank you!
I love how you keep doubling down on the presumptive arrogance.
As strange as it may sound to you, I actually don't need to prove what I know myself to have seen, to your personal satisfaction, in order to maintain that belief. Its just bizzare that you think that plus the inevitable burden of proof fallacy you plan on using is going to work here. I mean, you've worked your way through a good list of invalid arguments, in an attempt to make me refute the evidence of my eyes and ears. I don't know what to say to you really.
This is the internet, not a criminal court of law where I'm the state and you're the defendant. If anything, its on you to disprove the commonly accepted consensus. As if you think you can assign homework to people you disagree with.
You made the claim that the media is wrong about trump being a racist. I said but he is.
You own logic puts the burden on you. Let me guess, you don't like your own rules anymore?
Gotcha, you want me to prove a negative... That actually not possible to do... So long story short you cant prove the assertion you made?
Again, nice try but 'you cannot prove a negative" is itself a negative claim that would not be true if it could be proven true.
I'll add that one to your long list of invalid arguments shall I?
I'll take that as a "no, I've suddenly decided I no longer like the rules I failed to impose on you." I've only ever seen cult members use as many fallacious arguments as you do. You didn't even attempt to argue that trump wasn't a racists despite claiming it to be thus and such, without a shred of evidence. Youre happy to believe it despite your own false claim that you can prove a negative.
Sorry but youre going to have to do a lot better than invalid arguments and sealioning. I can't even blame you for it, as it must work on people.
So then you cant prove trump is racist?
Not to someone who's determined to deny it, no matter the cost, and engage in any manner of fallacious, underhanded, side stepping nonsense they believe will further their cause.
Unfortunately, it would take some intellectual integrity from you and you've shown yourself to be utterly devoid of any, over and over again.
I mean, you can't even prove the assertion you originally made. Instead you claim I have to prove you wrong, burden of proof fallacy, even after your argument of "you can't prove a negative" falls to pieces.
So, you can't prove trump isn't a racist, despite claiming the media is lying about him being racist? In fact, even worse, you won't even attempt to demonstrate the claim you made to be true.
Gotcha you are just going to filibuster. Have a great day!
Gotcha, you're only used to arguing with people dumb enough to fall for your cheap tricks and poor, invalid arguments. If that's all I had, I'd run away too.
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