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[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

where does it say it’s mandatory?

Read the FAQ. "Where do I find the ambassadors in an event? Please reach out to the ambassadors on their social media" <-- That's impossible if disclosing social media profile wasn't mandatory, duh.

We are looking for ambassadors who would show what a Framework Laptop looks like to others who are interested. We are definitely not looking for a laptop salesperson.

A sales person makes sales, ie. signed contracts. What they are looking for is a PR person. Chatting about the product and showing it off is PR.

[–] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I've read the FAQ, it fails to disclose it as a requirement anywhere, actually it says opposite on the application itself, it allows for marking social media platforms as NA, if it was a hard requirement they wouldn't allow you to do so. Screenshot_20240805_115254_Firefox Nightly

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

actually it says opposite on the application itself, it allows for marking social media platforms as NA

OK, so I was wrong about this specific bit. I accept that and will no longer say otherwise. Does it make the entire point untrue that Framwork is looking for unpaid PR people? No. It still is very much about "show what a Framework Laptop looks like" and "answer questions".

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming that we agree that ambassadors are not required to answer questions other than location on social media nor schedule appointments now.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I’m assuming that we agree that ambassadors are not required to answer questions other than location on social media nor schedule appointments now.

No. "Our volunteer ambassadors will attend local Linux and open-source events, meet with other Framework laptop users and potential community members, answer questions, gather feedback, and showcase Framework laptops and parts to those interested." <-- Right there in the second paragraph. It's an unpaid PR job.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Where in that paragraph does it say they have to do that and take appointments online?

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Where in that paragraph does it say they have to do that and take appointments online?

You guys are really grasping at straws when you have to resort to the social media appointments not being in that specific paragraph. For the 10 time: "We will be announcing the events on our community platforms, also the ambassadors will share them on social media.[…] Please reach out to the ambassadors on their social media"

THIS IS A PR JOB. NO AMOUNT OF DERAILING BY SPLITTING HAIRS REGARDING VERY SPECIFIC SUBSECTIONS OF PARAGRAPHS CHANGES THAT. The part I quoted in the last comment was about the claim that ambassadors would have no obligation to answer questions when the "answer questions" bit is very early in the job description. It's really not so hard to understand.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Picking at my words, fine. Your point is that this is enough responsibilities for a job because the ambassadors will have to be terminally online to answer every single question (and somehow make appointments, which isn't mentioned at all. The locations are predetermined.). My point is that the only questions they'll have to answer is about what locations they'll show up to: that's the context that precedes the "reach out on social media" part; questions are only answered at physical locations while attending conventions. I think that's a pretty big reduction in responsibilities.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My point is that the only questions they’ll have to answer is about what locations they’ll show up to

... to then promote a commercial product in person by show hardware, answer questions, and hand out stickers. In the end nothing what you guys said negates this being an unpaid PR job for a commercial company.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because it's not a paid job and you're not the social media manager, you're not representing the entire company with your PR.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because it’s not a paid job

I've said all the time that it's an unpaid job, duh.

and you’re not the social media manager

Never claimed that. It's an unpaid job to promote the product.

you’re not representing the entire company with your PR.

Entire company? No. Promote the hardware, a commercial product: Yes, very much yes.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 3 months ago

My point is that you don't have as much responsibility to take on. If it was a paid job and a position, then it could arguably stir up controversy and give a lot of burden to the potential employee to not freak up their mouth and have people believe they said what the company believes. They also wouldn't have to purge their social media account for iffy views.