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[–] Technus@lemmy.zip 63 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This implies that there's some sort of evolutionary advantage to getting sloppy seconds. I don't know how I feel about that.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Everyone loves a good underdog story.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Everyone loves a good raw dog story.

ftfy

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Well, do you think women consent was at thing back in the early days of homo sapiens?

[–] MindTraveller@lemmy.ca 30 points 1 month ago

Yes I do. Do I think every sex was consensual? No. Do I think at least 1% of women had at one point consented to sex? Yes.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

nah poligamy were just the norm

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Polyamory is the word you're looking for polygamy assumes marriage

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

oh, i didn't knew that thanks

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

However "-amory" implies romantic relationships. We're talking sexual interactions, not love.

When discussing animal social behaviours, "polygamy" is used.

https://www.britannica.com/science/polygamy-animal-behavior

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, so that's why it's such a turn on, it's evolutionary advantage!

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If being gay (not bi) is so obviously an evolutionary disadvantage, how does it exist in humans and animals in statistically significant numbers?

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@kbin.run 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Turns out there may be more to this evolution thing than 'first past the post'. Non-reproductive members of a species can help other members of the species to survive.
Essentially it's not about getting "my genes" into the next generation, it's really about getting the genes of "my species" into the next generation, and beyond.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/B9780124201903000302

https://theconversation.com/homosexuality-may-have-evolved-for-social-not-sexual-reasons-128123

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That makes a lot of sense.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Because we like it and liking things is reason to live.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter how long you live if you have no offspring. It feels like, statistically, gay people really shouldn't exist. Yet here we are.

Hi, it's me, the strangely existing gay person!

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And long, long, long may you exist and be happy, NikkiDimes.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Live long, prosper, and be gay (and do crime)! 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍🌈

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

You do that. Well perhaps not the crime!

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Species survive not just as individuals, but as groups.

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OK. May your life be full of love and... er, ... satisfaction.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, whatever floats your boat, gets you going, rings your bell, dings your dong, pops your champagne cork, whatever bangs your drum, tinkles your tonkles, whatever gets into your groove and whatever, quite frankly, bedazzles your vajazzle or spurts your spunk. That kind of satisfaction. Just so we're clear. Hope that answers your question.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Mango@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] 4lan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

We are animals, monogamy is not a part of humanity like it is in penguins.
Our penises reshaped over millenia of orgies just to get all the other guys cum out. We are sluts of the animal world, like rabbits

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It implies that there were enough guys getting sloppy seconds for dick shape to give a reproductive advantage.

While it could have been from a lot of free love in the ancient past, I suspect it's more likely much darker than that and the evolution of cuckolds is intertwined.