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[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 85 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Easiest solution: point the fucking DNS to a family safe one and lock it behind passcode. Done.

This is how you "protect the children." Not by making a burden on everyone else. I don't need age verification on the internet, ever.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 45 points 3 months ago

Maybe they're not really trying to protect children.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 28 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Good luck explaining this to congress

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 3 months ago

Some of those fossils predate combination locks. Good luck educating them on anything built after the 14th century.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they truly understand, we won't have this shit now.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 1 points 3 months ago

In the words of the Spartans: if

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What do you mean lock it behind a passcode? How?

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The router settings, require a password to change whether it's in family safe mode or not

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What about the kids modifying the DNS settings or modifying the hosts file on their own machine?

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Lock the settings app behind a passcode too, there's ways to block things like settings... Not sure if that works for individual screens in there though

[–] Esp@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I mean tbf, I think if your kid is smart enough to work out they need to log into the router to change the DNS settings then they can probably figure out how to set it on their end device too. Unless you’re also blocking VPNs and non-dhcp directed DNS requests too.

I think the obvious solution is to force router makers to have a more user-friendly way to enable child-friendly features (we did that with TVs, why not the internet?) rather than forcing websites to either shutdown or do sketchy shit like take IDs. I work as a tech for an ISP, I assure you most people can’t figure out (or are barely able to even with instructions) how to change the default wifi, there’s no chance in hell you’re gonna explain to them how to point traffic to a custom dns.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The main avenue of kids accessing the internet is via their smartphone. I'm not too knowledged into the functionality and capabilities of the built in parental by Google and Apple. Can anybody chime in and explain?

It will be nice to have somekind of MDM solutions, ideally free with a nice guided setup, for parents managing kid's phone.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Apple provides a lot of choices through “Family Sharing” where parents manage settings through iCloud. You can restrict apps, times, duration, content by ratings, websites, purchases, calling, etc

When my kids were little and got their first phones, Family Sharing didn’t really exist yet, but there were apps that might be more similar to what you’re thinking. However my restrictions actions were pretty minimal - mainly to limit screen time overall and after lights out

  • my kids were especially annoyed about blocking mature content on YouTube - most videos are unrated so the all get blocked. It’s just not worth trying
  • when I tried blocking explicit web sites, they just used other devices. While I expected them to find a way around the restrictions pretty easily, it was ridiculous how many different types of devices Id need to do that on, and each did it a different way with different capabilities. It’s just not worth it. Pay attention to your kids and trust them instead