spoonful

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[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Which in turn means that it’s (almost) futile for the user to do that. If I have to wait 2 minutes to watch, I might as well leave the ad running.

I would still guess people would rather block it and context switch for those 5-10 seconds or it could be preloaded for every video on the timeline which in turn just hurt Youtube's ad system. The reality is that adblock people are tech savy minority and it's not worth bending the whole ad pipeline out of shape just for that.

I guess we'll see how Google handles this but I don't think they can pull it off tbh.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's a valid point but it doesn't take much to rebuild the participation history.

I also think it's an awful metric for security anyways. Reddit tried that but you can literally buy reddit accounts for pennies and it only reduced the original content flow. The subreddits that had min-karma or account age requirements were always needlesly shitty and discouraging imo.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get that you guys are entitled to your own form of moderation but I have no desire to invest time in creating content for free that I don't get to choose who gets to access.

If I'm going to contribute to the public internet I don't want someone else choosing who gets to see it based on their moderation work load. I already made a mistake of investing time and creating content on Reddit so it's time for something different.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Not a fan of this decision and will probably be parting ways with Beehaw tbh.

People have the choice to filter and handle their own timelines and there's local timeline already that can preserve the community mission. Splitting the community at this stage seems like a lazy decision - surely there has to be a better way to handle this especially with the amount of support people are throwing at the whole Lemmy thing.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The clever check is impossible. The server can't know the client is showing the video even when playing DRM content. I could literally mute the sound and put a black box over the ad until it's over. The problem is as old as the internet itself.

That's why Apple and Meta pushing eye tracking so hard. It's the only solution to the ad blocking problem.

I think YT is doing well with YT premium and that's the way to go for them. It's one of my favorite subscriptions and I'd probably stick around even if they raise the price unless they hurt the creators so badly they bounce and I'd bounce with them.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Behavior analysis is definitely a popular way to handle this but it's very difficult and resource intensive. Major issue is false positives as users are hard to predict in flexible environments like forums - is this person interested in all Honda posts as they are researching their new car purchase or they're shilling for Honda?

It's tough.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm certain lemmygrad is a propaganda operation by China or Russia. Well at least I want to believe that people aren't that toxic and ignorant willingly.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think multiple accounts is a great idea.

I work in tech security and I cringe in pain when I see people post their 10 year accounts. The amount you can deduce and learn from mined social media data is absurd. I migrate to a new account every 6 months and that's the longest you should keep an account. This of course doesn't apply to your public brand account.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Because it's impossible to block adblocking. The server can't know whether the client plays the video. The best they could do is have you wait the ad-time even if the ad is blocked but that would just mess with their analytics - they want to be sure the ad is being watched.

The only reason adblock blocking works for smaller websites is because adblockers need to catch up with each implementation. People will easily catch up with Youtube as there are thousands of people working on Youtube programming.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

It's impossible to tell how much of the posts are bots but if you look at the default subreddits I'd say that it's definitely noticable.

Reddit is a popular grey marketing area - be it shilling products or political propaganda. Lemmy/Federation hasn't reached enough mass for this to be a real problem yet but it'll happen eventually and Lemmy is an easy target right now. I used to work in bot detection area and modern, well made bots (the ones you should worry about) are essentially indisguishable from real users but script kiddies can be an issue too.

The only real way to fight bots is to reduce the incentive which is more of a cultural thing - people have to call out shills and a more transparent platform definitely helps.

Sorry for the rant but I think bots/spam will play a big role if federation ever reaches the point where there's enough eye-balls for shilling to be valuable.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 19 points 1 year ago

I think I'm happy with the outcome. People were always looking for an alternative to Reddit and all that was missing was critical mass. Now the alternatives are totally usable outside of small niches which will catch up eventually.

Reddit is definitely shitting its pants. They used to have zero direct competitors.

[–] spoonful@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (11 children)

I think more realistic implication is that big chunk of reddit content is bots and propagandists.

 

Seems like foldable phones are taking over (e.g. Motorola Razr making waves) and only Apple is missing an entry in this form factor now. Almost everyone who can afford one swears by it with the exception of weak build quality.

What do you think? Anyone has one?

Personally, I'm betting on rolling screens (like Oppo X 2021) which seems like the most convenient take.

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