I realized after posting this HG/SS is DS so no dice. I read the graph on Wikipedia wrong. I guess I’ll give FR/LG a shot.
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They haven’t shut down entirely. They’re in this weird restricted state where flairs can respond to old unanswered comments and they have these daily themed discussion threads. But you can’t ask new questions right now.
The mods seem pretty committed to Reddit and not moving. Their goals aren’t quite in line with the third party app devs and they’ll probably get enough of what they want eventually to come back. They want better mod tools and Reddit will give them a few minor improvements which they’ll call a win and turn back on. They’re not holding out for third party apps to come back or anything like that.
I find this really disappointing, they should find more meaningful ways to at least spread out from Reddit. They could mirror questions and answers in the fediverse at least which would give them a foothold outside of Reddit when it does eventually implode. But the mods are somewhat hostile towards these kind of ideas. But I don’t have any insight in to their private conversations so I could be off base. They just get kinda snippy with people who suggest anything besides hope Reddit improves.
This has always been true of course but we used to have much faster turnover in social media sites. The current players have been around so long they seem like they can’t fail. But it’s not a coincidence that we’ve been riding a wave of cheap capital since about the time the current players started to dominate. Now that the free money tap is shut off, everyone’s scrambling to be profitable. The grow as fast as possible and never care about making money paradigm is over.
We’re basically in the ??? phase of “steal underpants, ???, profit” underpants gnome economic model.
I think we’re also seeing the ad model start to break down. It was always a Ponzi scheme. Everyone hates ads and goes out of their way to avoid them. If less and less people engage with ads, no one is going to pay as much because it’s not worth it. This forces companies to be more and more invasive in their data collection and ad targeting which erodes trust in the companies and degraded the user experience.
We’re seeing both these things converge and it’s shaking up the entire internet order.
Nothing. I miss being more informed on what’s going on in the world but I don’t miss mindless Reddit discussion about it. I miss a lot of subs though. If AskHistorians goes back to normal, I might pop in for that occasionally.
This is getting better and better though, I’d rather ride out our awkward phase than get sucked back in to the Reddit cesspool and drift away. Although we really need to stop talking about Reddit so much.
PWA always have a ton of UI quirks that make them hard to use. It’s a cool idea and I wish they would take off but they just aren’t there and I’m not sure wefwef will be able to overcome that, as good as it looks.
If I have to have a computer, imo it’s not open. It should just be in the air or it’s literally an impossible barrier for anyone to get past.
Oh yeah, teenagers getting smart phones is a big piece of it. We used to joke about summer Reddit when all the kids were off school and everything got dumb and horny. And then that became the normal.
On yeah, teenagers getting smart phones is a big piece of it. We used to joke about summer Reddit being terrible with the influx of teenagers and then summer Reddit just became the normal
Did you find a company that pays you in beer?
It’s kinda tricky because you can get a VPS set up really cheap. Like 5 dollars a month cheap or a bit more if you want something more feature rich. But the more instances you federate with, the more storage you’ll need since you’re basically mirroring all of the content you can see. So your cost for storage will go up every month pretty much forever.
Outside of those issues, which does make it worse, the massive amount of users and karma system creates perverse incentives that make any real discussion impossible. Anyone trying to actually engage in discussion is drowned out and the top comments are just people trying to input the right combination of words to make the internet points come out. And if you dare go slightly against the hive mind, your dog piled with people trying to virtue signal harder than everyone else to collect the points. I generally agree with the hive mind and I still find it completely insufferable and uninteresting.
It’s not even just a political thing, go to the guitar subreddit and try to suggest wood makes a difference in tone and see how indignantly you get attacked.
Sure you can find niche communities that are better if you really dig but in my experience, they tend to just fizzle out or get big and succumb to the site wide problems.
Reddit was way better 10 years ago and this place is already starting to kinda feel like that. I would be very happy if we could stay that way.
Can we get it to nuke your Facebook account too?