cakeistheanswer

joined 1 year ago

I think this is just the leading edge unless folks are lining up to replace moderators in most communities.

Systems tend to fail slowly, and then all at once.

Most fediverse denizens have noticed how sane and measured the dialogue is, which is entirely a product of the audience who is here right now. But everyone's got a threshold, whether Reddit loses everyone or not isn't relevant if they couldn't be profitable with all of us. There's a death spiral coming, and if there's anything left Reddit will have to functionally change.

Easiest to think of Reddit as a party grinding on too long and starting to get rowdier, and the bouncers just quit.

It keeps them from participating by demoting them to the kids table, but you're still in a glass house to some extent.

I think this is the right answer, but the structure is going to require some amount of frequent drama just like this every time. You can keep an open federation policy until proven malicious, or you can verify partners, but I don't see the way around discussions.

So I didn't make an account here for precisely this reason, I'm not really at risk of being targeted or triggered, so at the 'edge' of your community I can at least try to knock down some of the BS.

I have a feeling this is where the 'eternal vigilance' is going to be needed.

The trolls are gonna troll.

Just keeping them out of your discussions may reduce the noise, but it doesn't stop them from conglomerating on the platform. Pointing out where they come to play feels like the only way to separate the good actors from bad at an instance level so they don't wander in.

Alright so I'm skeptical we'll keep a useful level of signal to noise the whole time (Usenet). But, for the first time in forever I'm optimistic, there's a lot more technical talent and awareness of how bad it can go this time around, which is amazing to see.

I still don't think people have grappled with the fact there's no total "erase" button even if you can port your data.

But we have open standards again, it feels weird.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Long term science.

Nobody's taped someone to a table and shot em with those rays. And there has never been more of them going around, so there's no comparison either.

When we say something is a cure or cause it's born out of a ton of testing and time.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Alright, more of a eli5 as I'm more folk knowledge than a scientist.

It's a narrower (more dense) wavelength.

If you think of signal, any signal, how close you are to it, the total power of that signal and the quality of your receiving gear are going to be your three major factors in "speed".

5g gains the ability to broadcast more waves iif you're close, at the expense of distance.

If you're looking to send communications further; wider (lower density) waves face less resistance. Just the same way you can seemingly get AM radio (bouncing off our atmosphere) anywhere vs FM radio (line of sight), each has a function.

You can find rural houses like mine, or the futures trades riding from the burbs to downtown with microwave (narrower than 5g) connections. They're pretty atmosphere resistant but require tuning to hit relays the size of about a soda can.

I don't think the longitudinal studies have been done on what frequencies over long periods of time produce negative results, the areas of spectrum we are working with have no real analogues in scope I'm aware of. Which is exactly why there's room to scaremonger over it.

Anecdotally I've worked a decade in an adjacent field and never heard of anyone contacting the plague.

The slow movement feels like a feature in that I can see the trickle of communities get created, the new/all feed used to be such a dumpster fire.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm cynical as ever, but I think it's a cash out.

There's not a better incentive to build a better product when they ran most of the independent boards into the ground, leaving them at a relative high.

I don't think there's a universe they can compete with free when interest is going up. All the reversals and user hostile policies are going to drive people away, how quickly that bothers Hoffman, the board and ohanian is probably just a matter to how quickly they can unload through the IPO.

In the days before Reddit 'won' you used to be able to find tons of niche sites/boards cultivating smaller audiences. Beer advocate/rate beer, headfi and whatever the latest splinter was there in the audiophile community both come to mind. There's generally more division by which each might find more 'aligned' or maybe their friends are on one first.

I don't know if it's possible to predict, social dynamics are weird and this is going to be new for a giant segment of the audience.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I love this scene.

If anything my point was mostly self indicting. To anyone with a firm ideology I probably represent part of the problem.

It's just a pithy truism, the reason is hopefully the higher rate of concern.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I mean from what I've seen the less abrasive frame would be 'find a space for constructive discussion for the marginalized.' I'm not really their audience, but I have eyes, they take an abnormal amount of shit in their day to day life.

I don't think there's a shortage of places in that universe to speak your mind, and I wouldn't try to set someone else's house rules.

[–] cakeistheanswer@lemmy.fmhy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nothing more typically lefty than a good infight. Seen plenty of that to go around.

Honestly while the entire architecture is in it's infancy we'd do well to remember being here to have a voice (or at least a front row seat) is a feature not a bug.

Better now than when the corporations get to the fediverse.

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