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up vote and down vote is not mandatory.

well taking up the whole thread is not an issue or is it? I quite enjoy talking with you to be honnest.

but your right, I understand that you don't want to reply to all my silly post. but I'm my book, you could have just ignored them and do nothing.

that's what I do when I see something that I don't agree with or don't like. either reply or ignore. I'll downvote only at the last recourse.

but I understand that we don't share the same value as what downvoting mean, and I'm ok with that. I just wish that this place will be build on the fediverse values from now on.

totally. maybe I'm really naive to think that we can all agree to keep "fediverse etiquette" around here. or just any etiquette at all.

we will see.

that being said I really enjoy exchanging about this with everyone involved so far.

thanks for clarifying it then. why not go this direction. but I think that you are wrong to assume how determined the behaviour from users gonna be.

it's up to us to decide. maybe through UI design choice tho.

of course. but it's not mandatory to use them lightly.

for me it's a really powerful statement.

because we are building something new here and we don't need to keep this "always been used as" policy. it's up to us to choose how it's gonna be used in here.

I don't know if you were on mastodon when the twitter migration happened. the people from twitter embraced the fediverse values, and most didn't fight to bring the twitter behaviour into it. it's refreshing for everyone and it can be a safe and welcoming place.

not everything is perfect, far from it, but we can try to make it better.

you shouldn't assume that much about my intention tho. and I rather talk to you and argue that being told to "shut if up", even tho you didn't say it, it's how a downvote feels.

I certainly don't want kbin to be a reddit 2.0. but id like people to feel free to express themself in all matter, not only being serious. We don't have to agree about that, it's ok. But one thing that I really wish would stay on reddit is this downvote culture.

if it become this toxic, you can block the user. I for one welcome the transparency and think that this downvote habit some have is building an unwelcoming environment, far different from what I'm experiencing on the fediverse since years.

so I'm not so ok with it. but to anyone their own opinion.

as for now boosts and upvotes on kbin works like boost and favorite on mastodon. I think that it's good to keep this compatibility.

in my option if we can't take responsibility of our action, be called by our name for them, we shouldn't act. we need to address some privacy aspect tho, regarding external party. but between to users I welcome this transparency.

I'm sorry but we talked about silly things being posted in an other thread, we exchanged our point of view and at the end, you literally downvoted all of my silly intervention in the thread. so you do you but that is exactly this kind of behaviour I'm not looking forward here.

you could also argue that it would be a shame that anyone feels fearful to post because of people downvoting whatever it not pleasing them.

for me downvoting is a strong statement, not to be taken lightly. it can be part of building an very unwelcoming environment and also shaping the discours of users in only one direction.

please let's try to take what's the best of the fediverse here as well, be kind with each other if not excellent.

If I see someone downvoting all my thread or post, I'll block them. Anonymity is not always bringing the best out of people.

but if you interact with me I'd like to know. So where do you draw the line? or maybe I don't understand you correctly.

I don't want to be advocating to less privacy, so feel free to correct me, but just by interacting with each other right now, without using the upvote and downvote system, we are already giving information to potential scrappers no? The solution would be to remove upvote and downvote all together then?

I like how favorite works on mastodon. we could achieve the same on kbin?