No one's asking you to be ok with all the horrors of war. But if we don't understand what started it, we won't be able to finish it. Ukraine's ethnic cleansing of Russians, suppression of the LPR and DPR, and flirtation with NATO must stop if ever this war will end.
WaterBowlSlime
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Where's the Putin apologia? I mostly just see people celebrating Nazis getting their ass handed to them. Also, what other countries belong to Russia's "empire"?
That explains a lot. I thought all of lemmy was communist but it seems like that only applies to lemmygrad. Dunno who would want a lib lemmy instance when Reddit exists tho
This conflict goes back much further than last month and NATO expansion is absolutely a key cause of this war. Being sarcastic about it doesn't change that.
So true. Libs think that by pointing out hypocrisy, we're trying to make a false equivalency or to excuse wrongdoing via comparisons to something worse.
No, the point is that the USA is weaponizing concern to push their agenda and silence dissent. Americans are the absolute last people who should be getting themselves involved in this conflict (more than they already have).
A scratched liberal, if you know what I mean
This community is an Adam Something free zone.
Uh yeah because that's what NATO does. It's not a defensive alliance and it never was, just look at what happened to Yugoslavia and Libya. NATO is a clear and present danger to every country that opposes the west and if they expanded to Ukraine, they would be able to install military bases right next door to Russia's capital. And they would undoubtedly use them.
Also, Ukraine was coup'd in 2014 by the US so it's very debatable how much of the people's will is represented by the decisions of their government. Especially considering Ukraine has since been in a civil war between those who refuse to recognize the puppet government and those who support it.
And if we're talking about respecting sovereignty, then Ukraine should have followed the Minsk protocols. To Russia's credit, they tried resolving this conflict diplomatically for 8 years. If Russia was half as war-loving as the US, they wouldn't have negotiated their problems at all & would've sent their troops in years ago.
And what does Zelensky being Jewish have to do with anything? You realize Israel exists, right? Do you also believe that the USA ended anti-black racism because Obama was president too?