I see you lurking fucks downvoting without any brain whatsoever. Cowardly slime
this post was submitted on 29 Mar 2022
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This conflict goes back much further than last month and NATO expansion is absolutely a key cause of this war. Being sarcastic about it doesn't change that.
The NATO is a defense agreement. Of course, Russia won't be a fan of everyone else forming an alliance, but they wouldn't need to care either, if they don't plan to invade anyone.
And their immediate neighbors certainly wouldn't either be joining a defense agreement with foreign forces rather than with Russia, if they felt like they could trust Russia, let alone need defense against Russia.
Ah yes it's just an innocent defensive alliance that has been relentlessly expanding and invading countries for the past 30 years.
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Uh yeah because that's what NATO does. It's not a defensive alliance and it never was, just look at what happened to Yugoslavia and Libya. NATO is a clear and present danger to every country that opposes the west and if they expanded to Ukraine, they would be able to install military bases right next door to Russia's capital. And they would undoubtedly use them.
Also, Ukraine was coup'd in 2014 by the US so it's very debatable how much of the people's will is represented by the decisions of their government. Especially considering Ukraine has since been in a civil war between those who refuse to recognize the puppet government and those who support it.
And if we're talking about respecting sovereignty, then Ukraine should have followed the Minsk protocols. To Russia's credit, they tried resolving this conflict diplomatically for 8 years. If Russia was half as war-loving as the US, they wouldn't have negotiated their problems at all & would've sent their troops in years ago.
And what does Zelensky being Jewish have to do with anything? You realize Israel exists, right? Do you also believe that the USA ended anti-black racism because Obama was president too?
What the fuck was Libya? Yugoslavia? NATO is an alliance of anglo scum and any real leftist that isn't an idiotic neoliberal shitcake worth their salt would not take their side. My god people like this are truly the lowest of scum. Don't try to reply, I won't make an effort to continue talking to idiots.
The countries joined NATO voluntarily. (They also freely applied to join.) That's what sovereign, free states do, they decide their own destiny and don't let another state dictate anything to them.
lmao, imagine thinking they aren't US puppets
Imagine thinking they're not joining because they're scared of Russia invading just like with Georgia and Ukraine.
most joined in 1997, fuck, russia tried to at one point. they've all wanted to split russia and make themselves stronger, have for a while. I think some are now, but only a few will. Contrary to popular belief, most of the people not in NATO despise it.
I wish that 1997 spirit had been maintained. So many resources and now lives are wasted over the distrust between NATO and Russia.
Fuck that, Im glad the NATO scum have enemies, and I hope the alliance burns to ash. May socialism destroy its enemies. Russia gained little power during this fight, but NATO lost far more. Each are now very much able to be revolted against. Lenin is young again, as the third world rises to burn the 1st.
Suit yourself. I'd rather see a world working together to achieve peace.
if you love the banner of imperialism so much, don't even try to pretend to care about the rest of the world. Your facade is nothing but patronizing to those you leech off of.
Oh, get off your high horse. Unless you're willing to decry Russia's imperialist invasion of Ukraine to steal its territory and install a puppet government?
first deflate your ego before I dismount. Until he does actions able to be described as imperialist, then I will, but as of yet, no. Russia seems to be doing exactly what it said it was, demilitarizing ukraine, De-nazifying ukraine, and taking back lands that voted to go to russia. Until he strays from that, I will not care. Ukraine does not have any special amount of sympathy from me, as the majority of their military and government are filled with fascists or at least ultra-nationalists. Also, defining imperialism as "any military action" makes the word completely useless. Use a more complex dictionary in the future.
Russia internally displaced a quarter of Ukraine's population and lies its ass off about everything you ticked off, so forgive me if I don't have any sympathy for it.
Lies its ass off? Who told you that? Have you ever tried primary sources, not sources from media? Ukraine has been killing its own people with its Nazi units since 2014. they've been killing in donbass before you even knew ukraine existed. Again, your fake sympathy shines through.