StrayCatFrump

I mean, "the public" is who is going to do the forcing. Or are you just sitting back and hoping that the capitalist-owned state is going to do the forcing without us rising up?

What’s clear is that each decision — whether to fund a treatment facility or buy a squad car — is a trade-off.

No. Not at all, really. When "sparks debate" is the best you can do. God, I hate the mainstream news so fucking much.

Yes, I get it. Already got it, in fact. But thanks anyway for reporting on yourself.

Nope. That's really not the question, in fact. What a shitty, boring, "utilitarian" view of the struggle for liberation. Why are you even in this community, liberal?

Liberals think the status quo of capitalist and state oppression isn't violent. News at 11. yawn

a whole lot of people need to be ready to die for the cause for social change to happen.

For the change to not happen, a whole lot of people need to be ready to keep dying from the status quo. It's incredible that some people still think a war isn't being waged when we don't resist the oppression and exploitation. Here you are implying those who are ready to fight for themselves—and for you!—are your enemies, when your real enemies know the lesson you refuse to learn:

There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.

—Warren Buffett

So, still feeling like leaving us all to continue being slowly murdered as you sit and do nothing?

Still pretty weak, TBH. Language calling Hamas' actions "attacks on random Israeli civilians" while giving at least some credence to the phrase "Israel's right to defend itself." That's a lot of giveaway to imperialist and Zionist propaganda while allegedly trying to clear the air on who holds what opinions.

This is an anti-colonial struggle. Colonized people have a right to defend themselves. Nation-states absolutely fucking do not, nor do colonizers while they violently expand their colonies, uphold apartheid, and continue to commit genocide. Upholding one's oppression is not coherent with self-defense, sorry.

I'm just not going to engage with outright fucking liberals here. Nothing good will come of it. But you don't belong on this instance, TBH, and especially in this community. And that's the last I'm going to say about it here.

I, for one, am personally inclined to completely dismiss this statistic as either engineered by survey designers or made up completely.... Why does the dairy industry desperately want us to think consumers are this dumb?

The liberal paradigm in general benefits (i.e. serves to better protect capital and state) by convincing us that other working-class people are stupid and cannot be trusted. That way we don't turn to each other and form movements for our collective betterment, but instead turn to the authorities—our oppressors—and beg them to take care of things for us, thereby surrendering absolutely all of our power. The "people are stupid" mythology is absolutely rampant in our society, quite intentionally.

Just sit back and trust "the experts"—your "betters"—and everything will be okay. Maybe if you're lucking you'll get to go to the voting booth every once in a while and submit your protest to management, but if you don't get heard, it's probably because you, too, don't know what's good for you, and should just shut up and trust the system. 😒

More looting and getting serious charges?

More looting, while using the tactics expressed in the linked article: overwhelm the police by taking small, distributed actions where they can't effectively counter them. In other words, more looting and more defending each other against the state, both directly and by being strategic.

violence, robbing and looting doesn’t solve much

Completely wrong.

What I am trying to say is I think it’s better to build, create, progress, rather then destroy someone’s neighborhood or place of work.

It's better to do both. Always. "Someone's neighborhood or place of work," is a liberal, garbage way of framing this. These were attacks on capital and state. Period. The workers don't own those places of work, or have any real say at all about what happens there; they aren't theirs. They don't own the neighborhoods, or have any real say at all about what happens there; they aren't theirs. The idea that attacking state and capital hurts the people they are oppressing is an extremely privileged idea. It needs to be checked wherever it appears. Hard.

Here's a good place for you to start putting some of your nonsense liberal ideas to rest: Peter Gelderloos : Looting is Wealth Re-Distribution.

More please.

I mean, yeah. Not only do they have all the people under them doing all the actual work, but the fewer authorities you have over you and the fewer peers you have, the less you are accountable. CEOs have no peers, and the only authorities over them are the board of directors and the capitalists (major shareholders). And a CEO who is also one of the capitalists circumvents the board, has no authorities above them, and has only the other capitalists (if there are any) as peers. Its a great position to be in...if only the people doing the actual work could share that position (socialism) rather than being victims of it (capitalism).

Elon can literally do nothing. He should do nothing. Everything he does do simply fucks people over. And that's true in general of CEOs and capitalists. Their only real job is to discipline the labor they are exploiting under them, in order to maximize that exploitation. Everything else can (and generally does) take care of itself.