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I was going to say that the Mini should be pretty cheap now that it's two generations old -- the 13 is down to $629 new, after all, and the Mini ought to be $100 cheaper...

But it looks like Mini demand has actually driven prices much higher than the normal 13. Strange, almost as if there IS demand for small phones...

The Z fold is 67.1mm across in folded mode. The iPhone 12 & 13 Mini is 64.2mm.

I've looked at the Unihertz phones quite a bit, but the cell bands and camera have stopped me so far. Your Lemmy instance implies that you're in the EU, so you should give it a shot if you can stomach the crappy camera. I'm afraid no Unihertz phone has IMS or voLTE support in the USA, so it's an open question if you'll even be able to use them at all on our networks in a year or two :(

From the article:

“The problem is Apple has exclusive rights to [the iPhone Mini’s] display — so, even with the line being discontinued, [Samsung Display] isn’t going to give us access,” he told supporters last month.

Sounds like we're splitting hairs: no other OEM is ordering the Mini-sized display, and this line certainly implies some kind of exclusivity. I've been following the thread on the Small Android Phone discord as well, and what I've seen there aligns with that understanding.

As far as I know, no small manufacturer ever gets displays built specifically for them. Even Pebble, which was a lot more popular than Small Android Phone, used preexisting displays. It just takes a lot of time, knowledge, and money to create a custom display.

Thanks! I'm also trying a new Fi SIM, mine is pretty old and I know that older SIM cards can cause issues sometimes. So far so good!

I'd go with the Fairphone if I were you, as long as you actually care about having the phone long term. I know the Pixel is very shiny and very nice, but Google really does have an awful history of QA. Fairphone isn't perfect either, but being able to repair things yourself is a huge benefit. Sure the CPU and camera and screen aren't as nice, but they're probably nicer than what you've currently got, and definitely nice enough unless you're a tech reviewer who's constantly looking at the new shinies.

Plus, y'know, it is kind of cool that Fairphone tries to produce their phones without any slavery or labor abuses, and at least makes real attempts at sustainability. When you get burned by Google, you just feel shame because you knew they were going to screw you one way or another. If you get burned by Fairphone, at least you tried to do something better in the world.

I'm definitely a small phone lover. I don't watch videos on my phone if I can avoid it and tend to consume text-heavy content.

Currently bouncing between an Xperia XZ1 Compact running Lineage 17.1 and an iPhone SE 2016 (!!!) running iOS 15. I get security updates for both, but it's clear that I'll have to move to a different phone in the next year or two.

Honestly at this point I just wish Apple would bring out an "iPhone Classic" based on the 4,5, or Mini body. Throw a headphone jack on there, a TouchID power button, and I'd pay serious money for it on launch day. I'd prefer an SD card slot, but if I know the phone will last for 3-5 years, I can pay a couple hundred extra bucks for 512GB of storage.

I just do not get folding phones. I understand that others like them, but I've never been a tablet guy. I suppose I would consider one with an internal e-ink screen, so I could combine my e-reader and phone into a single device... but I don't think I'd enjoy using a phone that's 1.5-2x the standard thickness of modern phones (not counting those massive camera bumps!). Plus the durability issue -- I would absolutely not trust any modern folding phone to last 5+ years, and at the $1000+ price point, it damn well better last 5+ years.

Above all else, I prefer small phones for two reasons:

• my phone can "disappear" into my pocket, even if I'm walking, biking, running, or playing a sport
• I can use my phone with one hand on public transit, or doing one of the above activities if I decide to listen to music during that activity

It's really frustrating that phone companies don't bother with small phones any more. But nobody is even trying -- and never has tried -- to market a small phone that stays out of your way but helps you when you need it. Even Apple barely marketed the Mini at all (and debuted it during a global pandemic when a lot of people stopped commuting and traveling, two of the best times to have a small one-handable phone).

I wonder how much Apple fucked up the small phone market by maintaining exclusive access to the Mini screens from Samsung, as the author mentions in this article.

I'll probably switch it to GrapheneOS after next month because I think it's a software issue, not a hardware problem. But my partner can't use Android Auto even though our car supports it, her phone crashes and becomes unresponsive randomly, and apps frequently drop out of memory when you aren't heavily multitasking. The phone is perfectly capable of running a browser, music player, and maybe the camera all at once, so it's frustrating to see this nonsense play out.

The phone is only two years old and runs stock Android. Around 60-70% storage usage on average. No clue what's causing so many problems, but I've heard other 4a users say similar things lately.

AOSP deserves to be split out from Google into some kind of open source nonprofit similar to Linux. It's obvious that Google has no intent of maintaining AOSP in a usable form, they've become completely distracted by Pixel software features.

The quick settings tiles and settings app are perfect examples. No custom color picker for the UI either? I HAVE to use one of the "AI"-generated suggestions, or one of 6 incredibly boring barely-different pastel variations? These things technically work, but almost seem designed to piss off the end user.

I know you don't want to hear it, but if you want a phone that's (relatively) privacy respecting, reliable as hell, well constructed so it won't break after just a couple of years, and supported for a long time... you just described an iPhone. You could be the 2022 SE today for $400ish and use it for 3+ years before you have to do anything to it, and even then you'd just have to pay $69 or so for a battery swap. You could also buy a 13 Mini or a 12 Pro for close to the same price and get an OLED screen and a better camera.

The Pixel series is probably your best bet in terms of specs and theoretical support. But I would be very surprised if you were able to use a Pixel for 3+ years without developing a hardware issue. Maybe you'll be lucky, but I wouldn't bet on it, personally. My partner's 4a isn't even 3 years old yet and it's clear that Google does not backtest any of their software updates on older hardware either. Hopefully that changes going forward, but Google has a pretty shit record with long-term support. They've promised to make replacement parts available for the 8 year lifespace of the 8 series phones, but the phones are glued together and hard to repair, so unless you're hardcore about DIY, it's unlikely that you'll bother with it. Instead you'll likely end up going to a repair shop, which you could also do with older Pixels today. And both Pixels and their replacement parts are iPhone-level expensive unless you're playing the carrier incentive game.

I'm not sure why others are shitting on the Fairphone's hardware. I think it's incredibly dumb that they killed the aux jack, and the phone is way too big for my liking... but it's literally built to be easy to repair. And Fairphone has a proven track record of support for their phones. It isn't perfect, but I'm much more likely to believe that you'd use a Fairphone for 5+ years than a Pixel. If you're concerned about part availability down the road, just buy a couple of spare batteries, a spare screen, a spare camera module, and a spare USB-C port today.

Official, too! And I believe the predecessor, the Z2 Compact, also has official Lineage support.

Sadly the XZ2 did away with the headphone jack and has a (subjectively) shittier design. But it is still smaller than any modern phone by a fair margin.