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[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 3 points 9 months ago

But since everyone has to serve in the IDF, lots of shitty people are also veterans of the IDF.

I understand where you're coming from, but I think this ignores the fact that Israel's dehumanization and brutalization of Palestinians is a systematic one. It's not just that there are good and bad humans in the IDF as much as it is that negative behavior is encouraged, often unpunished, and rewarded even, whereas positive behavior is disparaged. This has been the case for a long time where soldiers who would try to stop or hold their peers accountable for murders, tortures, and rapes were often turned into pariahs and be given death threats and the like.

With that said, I do wholeheartedly agree with everything else that you have said. You raise some really good questions.

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

NYPD is investigating claims that the chemical unleashed on these students is “skunk”, an agent developed in Israel and used as a crowd control weapon, most commonly in the occupied West Bank. SJP said the chemicals were sprayed by two students who are former Israeli soldiers, who mixed in with the crowd by wearing Palestinian keffiyehs. The Guardian could not verify this claim, and the NYPD and Columbia did not directly respond to questions about the identity of the perpetrators. According to a statement from Columbia, “the alleged perpetrators of the attack have been identified and immediately banned from campus while law enforcement’s investigation proceeds”.

If it ends up being true that the perpetrators were IDF veterans. . . were they so used to doing this bullshit with impunity back in Palestine that they thought they could just get away with this scot free?

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Except both don't need to. Israel literally has the concept of "New Historians" because Israeli historians felt the need to correct the clearly fabricated history of Israel's founding where they finally admitted that ethnic cleansing took place, but then a majority of them decided to justify it as a necessary evil so that a Jewish state can exist. Israel has a track record of constantly shifting their story and making unsubstantiated claim after claim which are contradicted time and time again by either evidence found by third parties or themselves.

The Palestinian cause on the other hand has been consistent in their claims, and have been backed up from multiple parties including Palestinian witnesses, Israeli witnesses, Independent journalists, Israeli journalists, Israeli veterans, Israeli historians. Anyone who has been following this conflict in earnest would know that there are no two sides; there is only the oppressor and the oppressed, the colonizer and the colonized.

Dr. Gabor Maté, Ilan Pappe, and Norman Finkelstein are just three prominent Jewish academics critical of Israel and Zionism; two of which are ex-Zionists who became anti-Zionist when they realized what Zionism entailed. Look them up and see what they have to say.

Then you have ex-IDF soldiers like Eran Efrati who have become disillusioned with Israel and Zionism after realizing how the soldiers are being used to create and enforce systematic oppression. You also have testimonies of war crimes from IDF veterans such as Yosef Diamant which detail the torture and rape of civilians since 1948, none of which has gone punished. In fact, Israel pardoned themselves of all war crimes a year later.

There's also Breaking the Silence, an Israeli NGO built so that IDF veterans have a place to go past the censor and talk about their experiences. Searching up "human shields" and "ambulances" yields damning results.

Let's not forget the Israeli journalists that have been documenting crime after crime such as Yuval Abraham who routinely publishes his work in 972+ Magazine, and independent magazine established by four Israeli writers.

I could go on and on. I have a feeling that you're not even going to bother looking anything up, since you parroted the 1400 dead that even the Israeli government has since changed two months ago, so here is just one source. You can find the rest on your own until you admit that your head is buried deep in the sand.


Breaking the Silence

Israeli NGO where IDF veterans testify their experiences. Some examples:


You know what? I'm feeling a little bit generous, here's two more:

Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are right to resist"

Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant

^Whole-ass documentary if you want.

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

To make a statement as idiotic as this one, you must really have your head buried in the sand. If you are going to insist on readily accepting whatever garbage comes out of pro-Zionist media, at the very least use Israel's revised death toll of <1200 since November. This revision was due to Israel being unable tell apart the militant and civilian casualties apart after burning them to crisp when enacting the Hannibal doctrine.

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Israeli soldiers stormed the building. “They banged on our door. My husband … told them we are all civilians. They took him to another apartment. I followed them, pleading with them to let him go because we are civilians,” she said.

“They beat me and my daughters. They put us women in one place and threatened us with guns and knives. They made us strip. They searched us, insulting us using the most terrible words,” Salem added.

The soldiers disregarded their pleas and proceeded to “execute” all the men they rounded up outside.

“My husband was one of the 19 men killed in this building. They ordered them to bend down and executed them. They killed them all.”

The footage shows the bodies of men with the entry holes of bullets in their back.

After the men were killed, the apartment that Salem and her daughters were sheltering in was hit, one of her daughters told Al Jazeera, killing her three-year-old sister, Nada.

“I was holding my sister in my arms. Then the shelling resumed. Nada was hit. She made some soft sounds. She asked for some water.”

“I thought she was crying. But she was dying. Shrapnel had entered her head, eyes and neck. My sister tried to carry her body but she fell from her arms at the door.”

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---Gaza Continued---

January 10, 2024: WHO facing ‘near insurmountable challenges’ in Gaza aid delivery

January 10, 2024: Photos: Terrified people flee Israeli attacks at Al-Aqsa Martyrs Hospital

January 11, 2024: Gaza daily deaths exceed all other major conflicts in 21st century: Oxfam

January 13, 2024: Shot in ‘cold blood’: Killing of Palestinian grandmother sparks outcry

January 13, 2024: Blackout in Gaza’s Al-Aqsa Hospital as fuel runs out, babies at high risk

January 17, 2024: Israel ramps up attacks on Khan Younis as aid for Gaza arrives in Egypt

January 17, 2024: Al Jazeera’s Gaza bureau chief Wael Dahdouh in Qatar for medical treatment

January 18, 2024: Maghazi residents left reeling after Israeli forces withdraw

January 19, 2024: UN says Palestinians detained by Israeli forces humiliated, beaten

January 20, 2024: Palestinians accuse Israeli forces of executing 19 civilians in Gaza

January 29, 2024: Two brothers shot by Israeli forces in Khan Younis, white flag ignored

January 30, 2024: No rest for Gaza’s dead with rushed burials, bodies desecrated

February 2, 2024: UN estimates 17,000 Gaza children left unaccompanied amid Israel’s war

February 6, 2024: Israel’s assault on Gaza, through Mona’s eyes

February 9, 2024: Israeli bombs target Gaza’s overcrowded Rafah

February 9, 2024: Israeli snipers kill 21 civilians outside Gaza’s besieged Nasser Hospital

February 21, 2024: Israeli forces kill, wound Palestinians waiting for food aid in Gaza

February 22, 2024: Israel bombards Gaza’s Rafah as ground offensive looms

February 29, 2024: ‘Massacre’: Dozens killed by Israeli fire in Gaza while collecting food aid

March 14, 2024: ‘Death trap’: Israeli forces kill six in new attack on Gaza aid seekers

March 15: 2024: ‘Massacre’: Israel forces attack crowds waiting for aid in Gaza, killing 21

March 23, 2024: At least 19 reported killed as Israeli forces fire on Gaza aid seekers

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Inside the military base, the Palestinians were held in clusters of around 100. According to the testimonies, they were handcuffed and blindfolded the whole time, and permitted to rest only between midnight and 5 a.m.

One of the detainees in each cluster, whom the soldiers chose because he knew Hebrew and was given the title “Shawish” (a slang term for a servant or subordinate), was the only one without a blindfold. The former detainees explained that the soldiers guarding them had green laser flashlights that they used to mark anyone who moved, changed position because of pain, or made a sound. The Shawish brought these detainees to soldiers standing on the other side of the barbed wire fence surrounding the facility, where they were punished.

According to testimonies, the most common punishment was being tied to a fence and having to raise their arms for several hours. Whoever lowered them was taken away by the soldiers and beaten.

“We were tortured all day,” Nidal told +972 and Local Call. “We knelt, head down. Those who didn’t succeed were tied to the fence, [for] two or three hours, until the soldier decided to let him off. I was tied up for half an hour. My whole body was covered in sweat; my hands became numb.

“You can’t move,” Lubad recalled of the rules. “If you move, the soldier points a laser at you and tells the Shawish, ‘Get him out, raise his hands.’ If you put your hands down, the Shawish takes you outside, and the soldiers beat you. I was tied to the fence twice. And I kept my hands up because there were people around me who were really getting hurt. One person came back with a broken leg. You hear the beating and screaming on the other side of the fence. You are afraid to look or peek through the blindfold. If they see you looking, it’s a punishment. They will take you out or tie you to the fence too.”

Another young man released from detention told the media after returning to Gaza that “people were tortured all the time. We heard screaming. They [soldiers] said to us, ‘Why did you stay in Gaza, why didn’t you go to the south?’ And I told them, ‘Why should we go to the south? Our homes still stand, and we are not connected to Hamas.’ They told us, ‘Go down to the south — you celebrated [the Hamas-led attack] on October 7.’”

In one case, Lubad said, a detainee who refused to kneel and lowered his hands instead of keeping them raised was taken behind the barbed wire fence with his hands cuffed. The detainees heard beatings, then heard the detainee cursing a soldier, and then a gunshot. They don’t know if the detainee was actually shot, or whether he is alive or dead; in any case, he did not return for the rest of the time that those we spoke to were held there.

To think that someone would be defiant even in those horrid conditions and the least favorable of positions. A man tied up, posed no realistic threat, yet executed. The mask of arrogance betrayed by fear. I wonder if Goliath too feared David.

[–] Dreamer@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Al Jazeera

---West Bank---

October 6: Palestinian killed as Israeli settlers attack West Bank town of Huwara

November 16, 2023: Live on TikTok: Cousin of Palestinian activist beaten by Israeli soldiers

November 22, 2023: Anxious, optimistic: Families of female Palestinian prisoners await release

November 24, 2023: Israel releases Palestinian women and children prisoners under Hamas deal | Photos: Palestinians released from prison reunite with loved ones

November 25, 2023: Family celebrates return of freed Palestinian prisoner Marah Bakeer

November 25, 2023: 39 Palestinian women and children were sent home

November 26, 2023: Israeli forces carry out deadly raids in the West Bank amid Gaza truce

November 26, 2023: Israeli settlers steal Palestinian farmers’ land in occupied West Bank

November 27, 2023: Palestinian killed after Israel prevents medics from helping him

November 28, 2023: Freed Palestinian prisoners report physical abuse in Israeli jails

November 28, 2023: Israel arrests almost as many Palestinians as it has released during truce

November 29, 2023: Jailed without charge: How Israel holds thousands of Palestinian prisoners

November 29, 2023: Hurt, scared but free now. Palestinian boy recalls abuse in Israeli prison

November 29, 2023: 'They Assaulted All The Girls' - Jailed For Posting a Palestinian Flag

November 29, 2023: Palestinian activist Ahed Tamimi among those freed as part of truce agreement between Hamas & Israel

November 29, 2023: Israeli forces kill two Palestinian children in occupied West Bank raid | Eight-year-old Adam al-Ghoul and 15-year-old Basel Abu al-Wafa shot dead by israeli soldiers

November 29: ‘Military camp’: Palestinian town of Huwara under 55-day Israeli closure

December 1, 2023: ‘My son was killed on October 6. There was no Hamas’

December 3, 2023: How a Palestinian teen’s release exposed Israeli mistreatment of prisoners

December 5: ‘Massacres await’: Palestinians in Nablus warn of deadly settler attacks

December 6, 2023: West Bank family sees no hope of justice in settler killings

December 9, 2023: Two teenagers killed, 15 detained in Israeli raids in occupied West Bank

December 14, 2023: Casualties mount in occupied West Bank as Israeli forces extend raids

December 20, 2023: ‘No safe place’: Jenin’s Freedom Theatre raided, daubed with Star of David

December 24, 2023: Muted Christmas as Palestinian Christians mourn for Gaza

December 25, 2023: Israel hits Bethlehem in Christmas raids on occupied West Bank

December 27, 2023: Six killed in Israeli strike on refugee camp in occupied West Bank

January 7, 2024: At least nine Palestinians, two Israelis killed in West Bank violence

January 17, 2024: Palestinian shop-owner used as human shield by Israeli forces

January 30, 2024: Two brothers shot by Israeli forces in Khan Younis, white flag ignored

February 2, 2024: ‘Love of my life’: Shot dead, waiting for her husband in the West Bank

March 22, 2024: More than 7,350 West Bank Palestinians arrested by Israel during Gaza war

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“When we passed the checkpoint, I saw two men stripped to their underwear in the trench with numbers marked on their shoulders,” Zahwa said. “There were other men, and I could make out my son Faraj.”

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