They are still happening, the western News just got bored of it. The morality police just received orders to start cracking down hard on women with uncovered heads. The government believes it has the authority to end any Iranians life for any reason, even outside of Iran. The clergy would rather burn down the entire country than let people live free from religious oppression. Without outside pressure, these protests are just going to mean more dead women and stiffer laws against them.
this post was submitted on 29 Jul 2023
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The government exists by consent of the people or so I've been told...
... but those ideas are pretty old.
Today we see the will of the people,
Being twisted and conformed into cloying treacle.
By consent or force, it does not matter,
They'll take all we are and serve it on a platter.
I'm not disagreeing with you but I think what we see is a minority of people with the protests. It seems like there is not really much political will to change anything from the half of the country with a penis, and the older females.
The whole thing is pretty sad but from my understanding when things like this happen they generally blame the west and the majority go along with it.
Honestly as a westerner Iran is pretty irrelevant to my life. It's not like we can invade them or force them to overthrow the government and if we did people would never shut up about it.
Look at Afghanistan the USA spent so much money trying to spread liberal democratic ideas, integrate and educate women but as soon as we left they went back to how it always was. There is no civil war, the majority just consented to the Taliban rule.
Yeah, absolutely, it is a minority. But I don't think it's entirely irrelevant. The clergy used religion to twist and conform the will of the people, turning their views into Sharia treacle. Human suffering is relevant in an empathetic way, but it's also good to know that human society can look like Iran with the majoritys support. Western society could end up in as bad a spot as Iran, all it takes is a revolution. There is a growing christian theocracy movement in every western country. Disillusionment with western capitalism and democracy is as high as ever and as things get worse, theocratic dictatorships become more and more appealing to more people. There is a non-zero chance we could have our own Iranian style revolution in just a few generations.
I agree mostly. It's like North Korea, I can't really do anything to change the situation. My government can't change the situation. We can try to push some buttons to help foster change but we can't force it. Change has to come from within.
Have you listened to the it could happen here podcast? The first episodes(the story ones) are pretty good.
Edit specifically this episode but you should start with episode 1 for more background.
Iran is a fascist theocracy. There is no ‘consent of the people’ operative there. The theocrats kill enough people to stay in power.
Only in democratic countries.
Consent can be compelled through violence.
Still going on, I'm keeping myself slightly updated by reading the reports from the Critical Threats Project.
Protesters dead or in prison would be my guess.