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[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

CHARGES

It's fine if you want to open an inquiry, but there is not the slightest shortage of things that it's been demonstrated that Trump did wrong

Have the sergeant at arms go and fetch some people who contempt of congress'd and lock them up under the Capitol until they agree that they were wrong and they'll answer questions now

Make a habit of finding a new crime every day that no one's done something about, from Trump or one of his allies, and recommend charges to the DOJ for it, whatever the terminology is. Give Matt Gaetz a subpoena because the house wants to investigate him paying underage girls for sex. Tell Boebert that giving handies in a theater is an ethics violation, and give her a fine, and have someone who's armed physically block her path trying to come into congress until she pays it.

IDK, I still fully agree with the reasons why political people shouldn't be telling the DOJ who to prosecute, I'm not saying do that. But surely a fact-finding mission to find out whether or not Trump and his friends are crooks is no longer necessary at this point.

[–] silence7 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The Senate can't do charges — that takes the House impeaching him or the Justice Department filing criminal charges. A senate committee can however, gather evidence, and then pass it to the Justice Department with a recommendation that they prosecute. That's what's going on here.

Probably can't do one new set of crimes per day (the Senate doesn't move that fast) but it's definitely happening.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I get it. You're not wrong. I wasn't even really thinking in terms of the details of how it does need to happen. I'm just saying it's crazy that we're still investigating. Y'all (meaning congress) are going to investigate your way along right up until the Oathkeepers come into congress armed and tell you who goes and who stays, it sounds like.

[–] silence7 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair, this is an investigation of a solicitation for a bribe which happened 15 days ago, and was reported by the Washington Post the morning after it happened.

Trump just can't stop criming.

[–] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 5 months ago

"Try not to catch any felonies on the way to the parking lot!"

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Give Matt Gaetz a subpoena because the house wants to investigate him paying underage girls for sex

Kevin McCarthy already opened an investigation, that's why Gaetz got rid of him.

Tell Boebert that giving handies in a theater is an ethics violation

It probably isn't.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 5 months ago

Only talking about it would be.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Glad to hear it. Re-posting something that I posted 9 days ago when this first came out.

This was clearly a request for a quid pro quo arrangement. Pay me this and I'll do that for you. Very illegal. In case there's any doubt about that...

In 1976, announcing the Supreme Court's landmark Buckley v. Valeo decision, Chief Justice Warren Burger set this standard for corruption: "the reality & appearance of improper influence stemming from the dependence of candidates on large campaign contributions."

The current chief justice, John Roberts, had led an effort to tighten that broad language. Roberts, delivering the McCutcheon v. FEC ruling last year, defined corruption as "a contribution to a particular candidate in exchange for his agreeing to do a particular act within his official duties."

He was describing a quid pro quo – the donor's money in explicit exchange for the politician's official favor. It's a felony.

Just to be clear, John Roberts, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the USA defined corruption as "a contribution to a particular candidate in exchange for his agreeing to do a particular act within his official duties."

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

Quid Pro Quo is BAD BAD BAD!*

*When Hunter Biden apparently does. It's totally totally cool if Donald Trump does it with Foreign Enemies, Domestic Enemies, International Corporations and others!

[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This is the song that never ends, it goes on and on again...

[–] slurpinderpin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

Lock him up!

[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Did the fucking traitor, Putin's Sock Puppet, ask for cash from Russia's Lukoil?

[–] silence7 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It was at a political fundraiser; people there are supposed to be US citizens are have a green card (or be working as staff). So it was probably mainly the US oil companies, but they actively cooperate with overseas ones to push up prices.

Edit: I'll note that in the past, Lukoil executives have gotten US citizenship, and contributed to Trump post-retirement

[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 1 points 4 months ago

+1 with boost...The Lukoil executives should have their US citizenship revoked.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Over a chopped steak dinner, Mr. Trump told about 20 oil and gas executives that they would save far more than $1 billion in avoided taxes and legal fees after he repealed environmental regulations, according to several people who were present and who requested anonymity to discuss a private event.

On Wednesday Mr. Trump headlined a fund-raiser for MAGA Inc., a super PAC, that was hosted by three oil executives at a five-star hotel in Houston.

One host was Kelcy Warren, a billionaire who owns a pipeline empire with an ambitious international expansion plan that depends on new export terminals.

Andrea Woods, a spokeswoman for the American Petroleum Institute said in a statement “This is yet another election-year stunt to distract from America’s need for more energy, including more oil and natural gas, to power our economy and combat persistent inflation.”

At the Mar-a-Lago dinner, Mr. Trump promised to immediately end the Biden administration’s pause on permits for new facilities that export liquefied natural gas, according to people who attended the meeting.

Representative Jamie Raskin of Maryland, the top Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, is seeking similar information from the companies.


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[–] perfect_brains@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@silence7

quid pro quo
exactly what the democrats do

[–] silence7 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] perfect_brains@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

@silence7

actually it is the opposite

joe biden
has not faced any charges for Burisma

[–] silence7 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] perfect_brains@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@silence7

not BS at all, biden demanded the firing of a DA who was investigating Hunter
or he would block funds to Ukraine
the DA was fired

[–] silence7 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You didn't read my link — he wasn't doing that even thought he Republicans made claims like that.

[–] perfect_brains@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@silence7

yes, and we can always believe CNN fact checkers

[–] silence7 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In short, you've got nothing but fiction on your side.

[–] perfect_brains@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] silence7 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol a right-wing health group...not exactly known for that kind of reporting.

[–] perfect_brains@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

@silence7

not being "known" for something is not exactly a fact or reason for anything

and in fact there is no such thing as a right-wing health group

do you have anything better?

[–] silence7 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You're into the realm of fringe sites without the capacity to do that kind of international reporting. So no

[–] perfect_brains@social.freetalklive.com 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@silence7

the term, fringe, is value-judgement attempt to denigrate something or someone,

not a fact or even a good reason for anything

something can be on the fringe and be correct while the majority center can be incorrect

[–] silence7 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)