I think this is a real blow to the Russians. While 5 km after 3 months might not sound good, its 5 km through what has to be the largest and most complex fortification line in Europe since WW2. We are talking about defense in debth with miles of minefields, tank traps, trenches and with significant reserves.

If Ukranians keep pushing eventualy they will breach through... and then its rush to the sea.

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Paying off.

I'm sorry I have to point it out, it's an illness.

[–] cedeho@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago

Right. I just copied from source, who is a non native English speaker ;)

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

I have sort of an OCD need to catch typos in books. I feel your pain.

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At first I thought they might keep going after the initial push, but more recent reports are that they slowed down again, and pulled back a lot of the armour. I wonder if we will see more of the same "intense, short push" in the coming days in an effort to force the Russians to deploy reserves to different parts of the front.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Regrouping because the Abrams tanks are en route & need to be incorporated into battalions?

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

To me it looks more like "hit hard -> force Russia to commit reserves -> pull back -> hit hard somewhere else -> repeat" to force Russia to constantly shuffle and exhaust its reserves. Once they don't commit reserves, or commit insufficient reserves, just keep going and you have a breakthrough.

Of course, that's just pure speculation, but it would be consistent with their ongoing strategy of trying to spread out and exhaust/attrit Russian forces while conserving their own forces.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That 5km deep penetration is fucking great. Keep it up!

[–] Styxie@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Just based on DeepState's layout of Russian defence lines, this looks like they've reached the first defence line. Hopefully this is the big breakthrough we've been hoping for.

[–] leo@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Mastodon Source

[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Should have just stayed on the defensive with the 5:1 kill count in their favor. By the time Russia got to Kiev, Russia would literally be out of men.

[–] FreeBooteR69@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The problem is war is expensive, and keeping the impetus going is hard politically, especially with how tough it is economically in the west for the average person. Especially in Canada where people are one paycheck away from living on the street. Homelessness is a real danger here now, not just something that happens to somebody else, it can happen to anyone at any time here. So the pressure is on for Ukraine to make a breakthrough. Slava Ukrani! Heroyam slava!

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And elections coming up next year in the US. If the Russian stooge block in congress gets large enough it might become very difficult to continue supplying Ukrane, especially if it looks like they arnt making progress. If the presidency flips support might even start flowing the other way. Without full US pressure supporters like Germany and France are likely to go back to calling for negotiations, and the UK, Poland and Lithuania cant keep the Ukrainian army going on their own.