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[–] Davel23@kbin.social 254 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Guy shoots down Elon's brainless submarine rescue idea

Musk: What a pedo guy!

Guy posts actual CP to Twitter (sorry, I'm not gonna call it X)

Musk: This is fine.

[–] joneskind@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (12 children)

sorry, I’m not gonna call it X

I have mixed feelings about this one.

Should I call it X because all that was cool about Twitter is now dead so it would make sense to stop giving that terrible social network any credit from the former one?

Or should I continue to call it Twitter because I know it will infuriate Musk that no one recognise X as his own company?

Or should I use a totally different name that everybody will understand, like say The dead bird, and kill two birds with one stone?

[–] Cabrio@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah, Musk has been trying to co-opt the 24th letter of the alphabet for 30 years, he's a wannabe Steve Jobs and he wants his own one letter legacy.

The only thing the rebranding has done is make Twitter an X-platform (pun intended).

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[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don't forget Musk roleplays as a baby with multiple sub accounts.

Dude is a creeeeeeeeeep

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[–] Zeppo@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty sure it’s “wow, that was S3XY! We’ll leave your account open so you can send me some more”.

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[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 206 points 1 year ago (7 children)

While the media posted by the influencer has been removed, numerous text interactions with the deleted posts from his followers are still on the platform. Some of those posts mention a child depicted in the photos as young as one and a half years old.

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To make matters worse, the image appears to have been on the platform for several days before being removed. Lucre even described the image in detail in a separate tweet, noting that it had been taken from a video. The video in question involved the abuse of three children, one of whom was reportedly strangled to death after the filming.

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The CSAM material was left up for FOUR DAYS (July 22-26) before he was even suspended. Then they let him "delete" it...and reinstated him. People commented during those 4 days DESCRIBING THE IMAGES.

What the FUCK please tell me this is worth a visit from the FBI, getting removed from the App Store, some massive GDPR violation, fucking something. How is this story not bigger news?

To put this in perspective, 4 graphic CSAM images that an account with 500,000 followers posted were left up on Twitter for 4 days. The person who posted the images was suspended for less than a day.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 94 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Content warning: I deliberately avoid providing much more detail than "it was clearly CSAM" but I do mention the overall tweet contents and pretext.

I remember this from when it happened and unfortunately did see the text portion and thumbnail from the original tweet.

He did it under the pretext of reporting on the arrest of a person involved in the video and large-scale CSAM production. It started as a standard news-report-style where they list the name, age and arrest details of someone taken into custody. Initially it looked like the normal alt-right tweet about "look at how paedophilia is rampant and the world is sinful!".

The guy describes himself as "chief trumpster" and a "breaker of narratives" and journalist. He claimed the details of the CSAM were provided by the Dutch police. He then described the title and detailed events of a CSAM video in the tweet. Unfortunately for me, the detailed events were below the tweet fold, so I had no idea it was going there until I expanded it.

The tweet image attachment or link unfurl thumb had a frame from the video itself. It was an otherwise-SFW image the adult abuser who was being talked about. Unfortunately I didn't realise until after I had expanded the tweet text contents what the thumbnail was. I actually thought it was an opengraph error at first.

Even in the context of "reporting shocking content" the tweet was way over the line and went from 0 to 100 in a few words. I did not need the info on the CSAM, nobody except the police and courts does. The video title alone was over the line.

Musk phrasing this as another "I was told" decision is just him knowingly deferring responsibility.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thank you for the additional context. I’m sorry you had to be exposed to that.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Thanks, it was partly my fault for taking a curiosity tour of Twitter to see whether there was a noticeable right-wing shift from a few months earlier.

Hopefully I can at least prevent someone from having to go try to find the context for themselves and finding the full tweet, because it was awful even as text.

I assumed there would be "they took it out of context!" apologia when it was inevitably reported on, but the actual context didn't improve anything or abdicate anyone from responsibility.

My heart goes out to the human moderators at twitter who had to see more of it and didn't have the choice to bail before learning more. And obviously also to the victims of one of the most heinous acts I've ever heard about.

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[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do I want to know what CSAM stands for?

[–] Letstakealook@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Child sexual assault material, unfortunately.

[–] ikapoz@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yep. Didn’t want to know that.

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, it’s a term everyone should know. It “replaces” the label child porn, because while it’s universally known as horrible, it’s not “porn.” It’s evidence of child sexual abuse. Hence “child sexual abuse material.”

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[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 145 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember all that nonsense the media was posting about Mastodon being a haven for illegal porn? Almost feels like a smear campaign to defame an up and coming X/Twitter competitor.

[–] Odusei@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago

Most online platforms are susceptible to hosting CSAM and Mastodon deserves to be scrutinized and investigated for it as much as the rest. The problem with a million decentralized instances is a million different people in charge of detecting and eliminating CSAM from their platforms, and it’s going to be a challenge as this platform grows.

[–] ScrawnyStork@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Facebook has the most csam of any website, but I hardly ever see the same fear mongering from the media. Odd.

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[–] HeavenAndHell@lemmy.world 118 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How does Apple not look at this and take the app off of their store?? Come on, Tim Apple

[–] humancrayon@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 year ago

John Mastadon would have removed the app in a heartbeat.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] codybrumfield@kbin.social 110 points 1 year ago (4 children)

QAnon people are posting photos of child sexual assaults “to raise awareness” because they’re too fucking stupid to realize that’s still insanely illegal and you don’t get to rob banks to raise awareness of bank robbers. (Or they’re just pedophiles trying to share images via a loophole that doesn’t exist.)

One prominent conservative guy got flagged by Twitter and had his account suspended. Elon claims only a few employees saw the image but that turned out to be a lie. It was up for 4 days and had something like 8000+ RTs and 1.3 million views. Elon basically intervened and unsuspended the guy’s account.

Also, if you’d like additional context, [insert photo of Musk with Gislaine Maxwell].

[–] Daze@feddit.de 83 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)
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[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know when pedophiles tried to normalise pedophilia on Twitter by associating themselves with the LGBT community or by coming up with that nomap bullshit. I would assume they are just that. Pedos.

Also, it is widely known that pedos project like motherfuckers. That teenage billionaire sure threw those accusations around a lot.

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[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago

The Brand X social media site living up to its name.

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Reminder: Musk himself has an alt account where he ERPs as a toddler

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Not just just any toddler. His own kid

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[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

"Why does nobody want to advertise on my site anymore?"

[–] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's like literally everything he's done is to deliberately tank the company and lose billions of dollars.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Almost like it's on purpose...

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[–] ultratiem@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think any smart run company left Twitter the moment Elon took over (in his own eclectic way carrying a kitchen sink).

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/17/tesla-elon-musk-thailand-diver-pedo

Just one, one drop in a sea of lunacy and megalomania. But that’s Elon. Now if this guy took over a company that directly impacted your profits, what would you do?

The real sad thing is that even if he is the Yahoo to Tumblr, it won’t impact him one iota. He’ll still be rich as all creation and people will still fawn over him and listen to what he has to say.

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[–] FluffyPotato@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

At this point they could have but a giant brown bear in charge of twitter. Gave it free reigns to eat whoever it likes and twitter would still be more successful and have a less damaged brand. Like is Elon actively trying to run it into the ground?

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago

I don't think he is. See, he's lived his entire life in a world without consequences, and he's never actually been a good businessman, and certainly never invented anything. But he's built his own little brand around pretending he's both and not a con man who was scamming carbon credits to boost the stock price of his flagship company.

At some point, he started to believe his own branding. After all, he must be a good businessman if he's the richest man in the world, right?

As a note, Bernie Madoff had a net worth of almost $70 Billion at his peak. He was one of the richest men in the world.

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