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[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 145 points 6 months ago (4 children)

as reported in Vietnam.net, it's possible Steam has been taken down in Vietnam after local game developers complained about the scope and size of Steam's vast portfolio of games, claiming Vietnamese devs cannot compete with Steam's releases given they are subject to government approval and thousands of international games on Steam are not.

Citing it as "an injustice to domestic publishers", Vietnamese studios reportedly say that local game development "will die" if Steam is able to keep releasing games without the same government scrutiny as domestic games.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 158 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense in regards to their law, but holy hell are their laws stupid

[–] UsernameIsTooLon@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As a vietnamese American, my mom always told me stories about the shitty government. Most citizens in Vietnam know the laws are dumb too but can't protest because the government is too strong now. Just know that EVERYTHING is regulated over there.

[–] Woozythebear@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago (10 children)

You can thank America for that

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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 103 points 6 months ago

Sounds like the problem here is the "government scrutiny" not steam.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ooof. What a stupid take.

There are indie studios whose lives have been changed because they focus on the international market.

This small brain thinking will ensure they die.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The local devs were not trying to get steam banned. Hell they wanted steam but wanted to play by the same rules and pointed out how strict their own laws and requirements were.

Vietnam govt said you're right, it's not fair and banned steam to make sure everyone plays by their rules rather than admit the rules were stupid and draconic.

[–] luciferofastora@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

Careful what you wish for - you never know if it'll be granted by a Monkey's Paw

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not immediately obvious to me that indie developers in Vietnam won't be able to find an international publisher. While I don't approve of the law, it does strike me as potentially having a positive effect on Vietnamese studios.

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

Given how it can be circumvented by fiddling with DNS according to the article, I doubt it'll really do anything besides stoke negative sentiment towards Vietnamese studios. Besides, you can buy plenty of the games elsewhere, so even if it worked, all you're accomplishing is making it slightly more annoying for gamers to buy what they want, rather than having it in one place.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

go big red!

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 120 points 6 months ago (14 children)

Governmental approval on games is an unbelievably dumb idea. Banning online game markets is not a solution; changing the laws is.

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[–] Anamana@feddit.de 33 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

F to all vietnamese brothers & sisters. I wonder if they also banned Epic and the others

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

I'd say already, not also

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This is only possible because Steam is (1) anti-libre software plus (2) service as a software substitute.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Based.

I hated steam when it started. I've grown to realize it's much better than any alternative. But I still miss the pre-steam days.

[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I was furious that I had to download steam and install steam to play new vegas on pc at launch (as well as the box I bought from gamestop not having a the game inside but rather just a pamphlet with a cd key) I was later infuriated by New Vegas at launch and the utterly broken state of the game with each week a new but preventing progress or outright crashing game.

But now days I'm reasonable happy with (Steam) it, it's not a perfect a solution but at least tries to uphold the gamer/consumer experience, unlike shotboxes like origin or epic games which were nonstop ads and snooping through your files outside the directory.

[–] ErinCrush@lemm.ee 6 points 6 months ago

It's hardly banned. Vietnamese people are still playing steam. It's really easy to get around and it's not a crime to use steam in the country.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

God damn I just bought a whole data center in Vietnam to VPN to for gaming specifically

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