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    [–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 164 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    The extra space is for two Electron apps of your choice.

    [–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 42 points 5 months ago

    Let's start with one and see how it goes.

    [–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    discord and microsoft teams 😍

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    [–] db2@lemmy.world 154 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Just install Chrome or Firefox. Problem solved.

    [–] j4k3@lemmy.world 88 points 5 months ago (2 children)
    [–] EddyBot@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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    [–] dditty@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

    Yup I max out 32GB building librewolf from source

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    [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 106 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    You've clearly never lived with a cat. Your metaphor is crushed by the Kitty Expansion Theory: No piece of furniture is large enough for a cat and any other additional being.

    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago (1 children)
    [–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

    Caching do indeed be like.

    [–] kaboom36@ani.social 14 points 5 months ago

    The kitty expansion theory is incomplete, any piece of furniture is large enough for both a cat and an additional being provided the additional being was there first

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    [–] naught101@lemmy.world 77 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    The other 28GB is for running chrome

    [–] myusernameis@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

    Three whole tabs!!

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    [–] teft@lemmy.world 57 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (16 children)

    Just like the human eye can only register 60fps and no more, your computer can only register 4gb of RAM and no more. Anything more than that is just marketing.

    Fucking /S since you clowns can't tell.

    [–] Kelo@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Human eye can't see more than 1080p anyway, so what's the point

    [–] starman@programming.dev 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    It doesn't matter honestly, everyone knows humans can't see screens at all

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    [–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 50 points 5 months ago (4 children)

    Op doesn't run applications, just an os...

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    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 36 points 5 months ago

    My 2010 arm board with 256MB ram running openmediavault and minidlna for music streaming. Still lots of RAM left.

    [–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 5 months ago (2 children)

    Just wait till all the browser tabs sit down, and need to swap to the floor.

    [–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (6 children)

    I genuinely can't imagine having more than 7 tabs open. I can barely keep track of that many. How do you do it, wisened mistrel of the woods?

    [–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

    For me it's a pattern of "Ctrl+t" to open a new tab and then I search "my interesting query". After that, I use "shift+tab" or "Ctrl+shift+tab" to navigate between tabs. Rinse and repeat until I get tired.

    I don't like searching in my current tab because I don't want to lose the info I have.

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    [–] TechNerdWizard42@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    Current 4 year old laptop with 128GB of ECC RAM is wonderful and is used all the time with simulations, LLMs, ML modelling, and the real heavy lifter, Google Chrome.

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    [–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    About 10 years ago I was like "FINE, clearly 512MB of memory isn't enough to avoid swapping hell, I'll get 1 GB of extra memory." ...and that was that!

    These days I'm like "4 GB on a single board computer? Oh that's fine. You may need that much to run a browser. And who's going to run a browser regularly on a SBC? ...oh I've done it a lot of times and it's... fine."

    The thing I learned is that you can run a whole bunch of SHIT HOT server software on a system with less than a gigabyte of memory. The moment you run a web browser? FUCK ALL THAT.

    And that's basically what I found out long ago. I had a laptop that had like 32 megs of memory. Could be a perfectly productive person with that. Emacs. Darcs. SSH over a weird USB Wi-Fi dongle. But running a web browser? Can't do Firefox. Opera kinda worked. Wouldn't work nowadays, no. But Emacs probably still would.

    [–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

    It really depends on the quality of software you are running? A SMTP, IMAP, Mumble, Photoprism, Jellyfin, bittorrent, Tor, Subsonic compatible server, who even remembers what else? Fine. One small Minecraft world? Boom you're dead.

    [–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 23 points 5 months ago (13 children)

    I remember building my gaming machine in 2008 and put 4GB (2x2) in, then RAM prices tanked 6 months later so I added another 4GB. I remember having lots of conversations where I was like "yeah, 8GB is over kill" but what I didn't expect is that it was such overkill that when I built my next machine in 2012, I still only put 8GB on it.

    It wasn't until 2019 that I built a machine and put 16GB in it. I ran on 8GB for over a decade. Pretty impressive for gaming.

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    [–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 23 points 5 months ago (10 children)

    I have 32GB and regularly fill both that and my swap space to the point where my system freezes up and i have to restart.

    i am quite tabby though. And vscode has become quite a memory hog and i usually have several of those open too as i work across different projects

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    [–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)

    The other day I got a Mini PC to use as a home server (including as media server with Kodi).

    It has 8GB of RAM, came with some Windows (10 or 11), didn't even try it and wiped it out, put Lubunto on it and a bunch of services along with Kodi.

    Even though it's running X in order to have Kodi there and Firefox is open and everything, it's using slightly over 2GB of RAM.

    I keep wanting to upgrade it to 16 GB, because, you know, I just like mucking about with hardware and there's the whole new toy feeling, but I look at the memory usage and just can't bring myself around to do it just for fun, as it would be a completelly useless upgrade and not even bright eyed uuh, shinny me can convince adult me to waste 60 bucks on something so utterly completelly useless.

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    [–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Hmm. But have you tried it with second and third linuxes? What about eightses?

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 5 months ago

    He doesn't even know about second Linux...

    [–] knexcar@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Someone clearly doesn’t play Cities: Skylines with mods

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    [–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Much like a cat can stretch out and somehow occupy an entire queen-sized bed, Linux will happily cache your file system as long as there is available memory.

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    [–] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (5 children)

    This is my server and about 28GB sits unused. Just in case I might want to run a new VM or something... 🤣

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    [–] NutWrench@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (9 children)

    If that picture was of a Windows installation, Windows would be a Sumo Wrestler instead of a kitten.

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    [–] Crow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 months ago

    4GB? I think you should clean up a little, do a like debloating

    [–] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 14 points 5 months ago (3 children)
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    [–] Doolbs@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

    I actually run 32GB on my desktop with Mint. I run 12GB on my laptop with Mint. Both of these have Celeron CPUs.

    I love it.

    [–] devfuuu@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago

    Me using jvm based software for work and it barely being enough...

    [–] sudo@programming.dev 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

    Running and LSP on a monorepo will destroy those 4gigs no problem.

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    [–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago

    When I start editing in Davinci Resolve....well, that's why I went from 32 to 64 a few years ago.

    [–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

    The cat is the Rimworld mod with a hefty memory leak yesterday. 32 GB was full in seconds. But it gave me enough time to find the culprit and kill Rimworld without trashing my session every time.

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    [–] SuperIce@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

    "Free" memory is actually usually used for cache. So instead of waiting to get data from the disk, the system can just read it directly from RAM after the first access. The more RAM you have, the more free space you'll have to use for cache. My machine often has over 20GB of RAM used as cache. You can see this with free -m. IIRC both Gnome and KDE's system managers also show that now.

    [–] jaschen@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

    I installed 64gb of ram on my gaming laptop and Chrome took all of it.

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    [–] Melody@lemmy.one 11 points 5 months ago

    Now snap some pics of this kitty laying in different places all over this couch; you now have a new meme: Address Space Layout Randomization.

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