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Tornadoes Are Coming in Bunches. Scientists Are Trying to Figure Out Why. The number of tornadoes so far in the United States this year is just above average. But their distribution is changing. (www.nytimes.com)

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While the timing of this trend lines up with the planet’s rising temperatures, scientists are hesitant to definitively attribute tornadoes’ clustering behavior to human-caused climate change.

“The link between climate change and tornadoes is still pretty tenuous,” Dr. Fricker said. “It’s a really open and difficult question for us.” One difficulty is that tornadoes are too small on a planetary scale, and too ephemeral, to show up in the global mathematical models that scientists use to study climate change.

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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My state of Ohio, as of April 22nd, has had 35 confirmed tornadoes (and I know there are quite a few still to be officially added). The average for the ENTIRE YEAR is 22. We had 57 last year. Something is not OK....

[–] Alto@kbin.social 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Guys I'm starting to think this climate change thing might be bad

[–] TubeTalkerX@kbin.social 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Now now let’s not rush to conclusions here.

We’ll give it another 20 years of doing the same old same and see where we are then, alright?

Now, let’s all get in my F350 and drive into town for some ice cream!

[–] Lath@kbin.earth 15 points 6 months ago

Hell no! We all got our own! Let's race! Last one there has tiny feet!

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it's because we just don't burn enough clean coal.

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"Propane is a clean burning fuel", said an absolute liar and a terrible father

[–] MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Taste the meat, not the destruction of our planet; uh-hehehuh.

(No idea how to type Hank Hill's laugh.)

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about Hank Hill, or the real human that propagated propane through our world?

[–] exocrinous@startrek.website 2 points 6 months ago

"That boy ain't right"

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

It's because of Woke, of course.

[–] Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Viral marketing for that new movie is wild

[–] Zoboomafoo 5 points 6 months ago

They do move in herds!

[+] halcyon 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

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[–] silence7 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but it's not at all obvious why that set of things would change the temporal distribution of tornado formation in this way without increasing their quantity.

[–] halcyon 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really don’t get why you argue with every comment on the articles you post, this is at least the third time you’ve gone out of the way to discourage a comment I’ve tried to make, in communities that could really use the engagement.

The article is paywalled and you quoted that block about the tenuous link directly, seeming to imply it was meaningful or warranting discussion.

[–] silence7 1 points 6 months ago

Let's start with the beginning here:

Tornados are smaller than the minimum feature size distinguishable in climate models, so the obvious tools don't do terribly well at attributing the change we've seen to the warming that's been caused by burning fossil fuels
Tornado response to a warmer wold is actually complicated
The link is paywall-bypassing for 30 days, so you won't hit the paywall if you have javascript enabled (eg: 99.9% of people)

In short, I think you're jumping to conclusions which might not be warranted.

[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I've lived in the same part of Ohio my entire life (I'm 28) and in the entire time I've lived here we had exactly 1 tornado touch down in the county. Within the past two years alone we've had at least 4 in the state and two of which I ended up driving through by accident.

We're all so fucked it's unreal.

[–] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Got like 4 tornados within an hour of each other last night in Huntsville.

Certainly not loving it.