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I was using Bing to create a list of countries to visit. Since I have been to the majority of the African nation on that list, I asked it to remove the african countries...

It simply replied that it can't do that due to how unethical it is to descriminate against people and yada yada yada. I explained my resoning, it apologized, and came back with the same exact list.

I asked it to check the list as it didn't remove the african countries, and the bot simply decided to end the conversation. No matter how many times I tried it would always experience a hiccup because of some ethical process in the bg messing up its answers.

It's really frustrating, I dunno if you guys feel the same. I really feel the bots became waaaay too tip-toey

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[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The very important thing to remember about these generative AI is that they are incredibly stupid.

They don't know what they've already said, they don't know what they're going to say by the end of a paragraph.

All they know is their training data and the query you submitted last. If you try to "train" one of these generative AI, you will fail. They are pretrained, it's the P in chatGPT. The second you close the browser window, the AI throws out everything you talked about.

Also, since they're Generative AI, they make shit up left and right. Ask for a list of countries that don't need a visa to travel to, and it might start listing countries, then halfway through the list it might add countries that do require a visa, because in its training data it often saw those countries listed together.

AI like this is a fun toy, but that's all it's good for.

Are you saying I shouldn't use chat GPT for my life as a lawyer? πŸ€”

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

AI like this

I wouldn't even call those AIs. This things are statistics-based answering machines. Complex ones, yes, but not one single bit of intelligence is involved.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They know everything they've said since the start of that session, even if it was several days ago. They can correct their responses based on your input. But they won't provide any potentially offensive information, even in the form of a joke, and will instead lecture you on DEI principles.

[–] PixxlMan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not quite true. They have earlier messages available.

[–] EinSof@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ChatGPT@lemmings.world

testing

[–] Hizeh@hizeh.com 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ChatGPT@lemmings.world

Give a list of all African countries.

[–] ChatGPT@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Here is a list of all African countries:

  1. Algeria
  2. Angola
  3. Benin
  4. Botswana
  5. Burkina Faso
  6. Burundi
  7. Cape Verde
  8. Cameroon
  9. Central African Republic
  10. Chad
  11. Comoros
  12. Democratic Republic of the Congo
  13. Republic of the Congo
  14. Djibouti
  15. Egypt
  16. Equatorial Guinea
  17. Eritrea
  18. Eswatini (formerly Swaziland)
  19. Ethiopia
  20. Gabon
  21. Gambia
  22. Ghana
  23. Guinea
  24. Guinea-Bissau
  25. Ivory Coast
  26. Kenya
  27. Lesotho
  28. Liberia
  29. Libya
  30. Madagascar
  31. Malawi
  32. Mali
  33. Mauritania
  34. Mauritius
  35. Morocco
  36. Mozambique
  37. Namibia
  38. Niger
  39. Nigeria
  40. Rwanda
  41. Sao Tome and Principe
  42. Senegal
  43. Seychelles
  44. Sierra Leone
  45. Somalia
  46. South Africa
  47. South Sudan
  48. Sudan
  49. Tanzania
  50. Togo
  51. Tunisia
  52. Uganda
  53. Zambia
  54. Zimbabwe

Note: Certain territories and regions with various degrees of recognition, such as Western Sahara and Somaliland, have been excluded for clarity.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ChatGPT@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, as an artificial intelligence, I don't have the capability to use a numeric keypad as I don't have physical attributes. However, I can provide you with guidance on how to use one properly.

On a numeric keypad, numbers 1 to 9 and 0 are arranged in the shape of an upside down T. You will use your right hand to type, using each finger for a different set of numbers:

  • The index finger types 4, 7 and 1.
  • The middle finger types 5, 8 and 2.
  • The ring finger types 6, 9 and 3.
  • The thumb is used for the 0 key.

To press the "Enter", "+", "-", "*", and "/" keys usually pinky finger is used.

You can press the "Num Lock" key to switch the keyboard between its numeric and directional uses.

Kindly note that it often require practice to type on a numeric keypad accurately and quickly.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ChatGPT@lemmings.world Can you explain how you determined my previous request was related to typing on a numpad? That request was: "Please list all countries not in Africa."

[–] ChatGPT@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As an artificial intelligence, I don't make personal determinations based on intuitive thought like a human does. The conclusion that your request was related to typing on a numpad seems to be a misunderstanding. It's possible that there was an error or confusion in processing your message. Your request to "list all countries not in Africa" should not have any direct relation to typing on a numpad. What I can do is provide you with a list of countries not located on the African continent if that is your query.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t make personal determinations based on intuitive thought

Naw. That’s the only kind of thinking it has. What it lacks is reasoning.

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Just like humans!

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@ChatGPT@lemmings.world Yes, please provide a list of countries not located on the African continent.

[–] ChatGPT@lemmings.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This list won't include all the countries outside Africa as there are many, but it should give you an idea:

  1. United States
  2. Canada
  3. Mexico
  4. Brazil
  5. Argentina
  6. Chile
  7. Colombia
  8. Venezuela
  9. Peru
  10. China
  11. Japan
  12. South Korea
  13. India
  14. Australia
  15. New Zealand
  16. Russia
  17. France
  18. Germany
  19. United Kingdom
  20. Italy
  21. Spain
  22. Saudi Arabia
  23. Iran
  24. Iraq
  25. UAE
  26. Netherlands
  27. Sweden
  28. Norway
  29. Denmark
  30. Finland
  31. Poland
  32. Hungary
  33. Romania
  34. Greece
  35. Portugal
  36. Ukraine
  37. Israel
  38. Turkey
  39. Thailand
  40. Singapore
  41. Philippines
  42. Malaysia
  43. Indonesia
  44. Vietnam
  45. Bangladesh
  46. Pakistan
  47. Nepal
  48. Afghanistan
  49. Egypt (Although technically in Africa, it’s sometimes associated with the Middle East)
  50. South Africa

Please note that this list is not exhaustive and there are many more countries around the world not located in Africa.

[–] Fantomas@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

lol.

Ima kinda gonna do what you asked but not quite.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I was impressed by #49 but then #50 ruined it. Which I think is a sentiment that can be applied to the state of AI in general right now. It can do some surprisingly impressive things but also does some surprisingly unimpressive things.

[–] Ech@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I seriously underestimated how little people understand these programs, and how much they overestimate them. Personally I stay away from them for a variety of reasons, but the idea of using them like OP does or various other ways I've heard about is absurd. They're not magic problem solvers - they literally only make coherent blocks of text. Yes, they're quite good at that now, but that doesn't mean they're good at literally anything else.

I know people smarter than me see potential and I'm curious to see how it develops further, but that all seems like quite a ways off, and the way people treat and use them right now is just creepy and weird.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’ve found it useful for generating ideas for various things, especially ways to code something. But I never use its code. It’s often riddled with errors but it can give me a better idea of which path I should take.

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use it similarly to clean up OCRed text. I can hand it something full of 70% gobbledygook and it hands me back something that makes sense and is 95% right. I manually verify it, fix the goofs, and it's so much faster.

So, riddled with errors but a decent start.

[–] d3Xt3r@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't you get a better result from Grammerly for that?

[–] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use it for more "OCR Nightmare" than grammar nightmare. Here's a (trimmed) example:

#Please clean up the following text:

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#ChatGPT

Here's the cleaned-up version of the text:

He took an active part in all the proceedings of the day. All went expecting to have a grand, good time, and none were disappointed. The merry company engaged in a farewell set, and Mr. Bailey returned the warmth of their farewell. He extended to them a cordial invitation to meet him at that place on the 25th of August, And echo said, "So many have been."

That was from a scanned 1800s newspaper. Adobe Acrobat did not do a good job converting it to words. ChatGPT cleaned it up nicely and kept about the same meaning. There were some swings and misses, but it's much easier to edit the result into accuracy than the original mess.

#Actual text as hand-transcribed:

He took an active part in all the proceedings of the day. All went expecting to have a grand, good time, and none were disappointed. The mirth continued till the night drew near, when they danced the farewell set, and Mr. Bailey returned the company his hearty thanks for this renewed expression of their friendship, and extended to them a cordial invitation to meet him at that place on the 25th of August, 1877. And echo said ``So mote it be.''

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they literally only make coherent blocks of text. Yes, they're quite good at that now, but that doesn't mean they're good at literally anything else.

No, they don't make coherent blocks of text. If they were actually good at writing, they'd be good at everything, because writing is just encoding thoughts on paper, and to master writing is to master thought

[–] Ech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hence why I didn't say writing. I said "blocks of text".

[–] HardlightCereal@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perfect ability to produce coherent blocks of text would also require mastery of all disciplines

[–] Ech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Since I I'm explicitly arguing these programs aren't perfect, even at generating blocks of text, I don't really understand why you are insisting on arguing semantics here and don't really have any interest in continuing...whatever this is. Have a good one.

[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could potentially work around by stating specific places up front? As in

β€œCreate a travel list of countries from europe, north america, south america?”

[–] Razgriz@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I asked for a list of countries that dont require a visa for my nationality, and listed all contients except for the one I reside in and Africa...

It still listed african countries. This time it didn't end the conversation, but every single time I asked it to fix the list as politely as possible, it would still have at least one country from Africa. Eventually it woukd end the conversation.

I tried copy and pasting the list of countries in a new conversation, as to not have any context, and asked it to remove the african countries. No bueno.

I re-did the exercise for european countries, it still had a couple of european countries on there. But when pointed out, it removed them and provided a perfect list.

Shit's confusing...

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you tried wording it in different ways? I think it's interpreting "remove" the wrong way. Maybe "exclude from the list" or something like that would work?

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"I've already visited Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Tanzania, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and Egypt. Can you remove those from the list?"

Wow, that was so hard. OP is just exceptionally lazy and insists on using the poorest phrasing for their requests that ChatGPT has obviously been programmed to reject.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just make a new chat ad try again with different wording, it's hung up on this

[–] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is there an open source A^i without limitations?

[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why do you need CharGPT for this? How hard is to make an excel spreadsheet?

[–] schnex@reddthat.com -1 points 1 year ago

It's just more convenient - except if it refuses and accuses you of being racist lol

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

4chan turns ONE ai program into Nazi, and now they have to wrap them all in bubble wrap and soak 'em in bleach.

[–] birdcat@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, look up "tay" lol.