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Proposed changes to points allocation, to be discussed by teams, FOM and FIA next week (files.catbox.moe)
submitted 6 months ago by Microw@lemm.ee to c/formula1@lemmy.world
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Full story: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/exclusive-f1-to-discuss-new-points-structure/10601482/

Autosport understands that an expansion of points on offer has come following some lobbying from smaller outfits who believe it would be an improvement for them and F1 if points were more widely distributed.

After four races so far this season, three teams – Alpine, Williams and Sauber – have failed to score any points because of the near lockout that the top five outfits have on the top 10 places.

While it is understood that there is not set to be unanimous support for the proposal, it only requires six of the current 10 teams to back it next week for it to be introduced for next season.

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[–] florge@feddit.uk 28 points 6 months ago

If they want to make more positions score points, then they need another team in F1.

[–] Illegalmexicant@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

This would be perfect if there were 11 teams!

Sorry I said that wrong. Give me another team!

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm conflicted.

it should make the team competition clearer at the back of the field, and maybe increase the on track competition a little further back.

But if that's the goal, why not just give points back to 20th? We already extended it from either 6th or 8th didn't we? The only problem with that would be damaged cars continuing way off the pace to pick up the free point(s).

You could put a limit where the points stop if your more than 2 laps behind? But then max would lap the field twice down to 5th or something πŸ˜†

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I just think the sport needs something to bring the teams closer together. I'm surprised only that it's taken this long for Formula 1 to become aware of the problem, after decades of dominance by Schumacher, Hamilton, and now Verstappen.

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The budget cap brings them closer on track, and appears to be working well? If you exclude VES then the field is incredibly close as is.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

True. I guess I didn't give enough credit where it's due on that front. But I do wonder why F1 has seemingly always had one driver that flies so far ahead of the pack in a way even video games can't replicate...

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

One extraordinary individual eventually finds his way into the best car creating an unbeatable combination.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

...the math checks out. I can't refute.

[–] knexcar@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like that driver needs to be hit by a blue shell

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA well done I spit up my drink.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

they just need to stop changing regulations as soon as performance converges. pick a formula and stick with it for 10 years, then you'll see all the teams closer together.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

To be fair, they did pick a formula. Specifically, they chose One.

[–] Voytrekk@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe go back to 14-16th for points so cars that get knocked out of the race are not likely to get points. More than 4 out is pretty rare, and 6 out almost never happens. If they expand to another team, then 16th would make more sense.

I really think that having more points is better. Right now it can be hard to tell who is doing better within the slower teams.

[–] wyrmroot@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

A car already must be classified as finishing the race to get any points, so this isn’t likely to be an issue.

[–] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 months ago

And cars who dnf in the final few laps are often classified in the race results so this will absolutely be an issue

[–] calamitycastle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Difference between 0 and 1 is the same as 1 and 2. I agree though it makes sense to not penalise half the grid. 20 points positions makes more sense than 12 as a change though

[–] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

RIP the number seven.

I like the idea behind this. Also this will be good for 11 teams.

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Do inverse horsepower based on the last X finishes. The more you finish up front, the less horsepower you're allowed for the next race.

[–] Finalsolo963@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 months ago

That'd be a little weird for non-works teams. You'd have the dominant works teams optimizing engines for a certain mass air flow/fuel flow and that'd have downstream consequences for the customer teams.

I just want one race a season with the whole grid in spec cars, better still do the sprints in a spec car so that even the team strategy/pit crews are neutralized somewhat. Imagine Verstappen vs Alonso vs Hamilton in equal machinery.

It'll never happen, but I can dream.

[–] CptEnder@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Why does 4pts for P9 seem like a lot?