Asklemmy

Yes.

A reasonable position and uncritical acceptance of a narrative are indistinguishable without the reasoning behind it. And I sincerely wish I could give others the benefit of the doubt that they reasoned their way to their beliefs, and I used to. But that assumption has been repeatedly violated that I'd be stupid to maintain it.

If it's a subjective matter then no. Like if you thought Blade Runner sucked I might disagree with your opinion but respect that it's a matter of taste and so I won't recommend you see the sequel.

If you're just using "opinion" as a shield for something objective then yes I will. And I will laugh at you for thinking the sky is falling is a matter of opinion.

Depending on what you mean by respect and opinion, yes. If you're discussing an opinion then someone is probably going to expect you to explain why, that's a logical point to cover in any such discussion. Even if it's subjective. If it's an opinion on something objective, then there's an actual burden of "proof" and possible consequences, and the stakes rise accordingly.

There aren't many reasons to "properly" respect an opinion that is irrational (not just subjective), factually wrong ("interpretation" only goes so far), dishonest, or anything like that. I'm skeptical of endorsing any opinion until I know why it is what it is.

Sort of. I respect your right to have an opinion, but I'll respect the opinion a lot more if backed by facts and data.

People that spend energy on arguing their right to have opinions rather than defending the opinion are deeply uninteresting and often stupid people that I don't not respect in any capacity.

It depends on how harmful that opinion is. You prefer vanilla ice cream because you like the mild flavor - cool, difference of opinion. You prefer there were no same-sex marriages because your religion is against it - no, that affects other people’s lives so if you want me to respect that opinion you would have to have a good argument.

OP asked this less than 24 hours before they went mask-off as a Fascist.

Yes, you do need a good argument. And no, Forced sterilization and eugenics isn't a good argument or even a conversation worth dignifying.

Edit: OP has deleted their post after an avalanche of downvotes and dissenting comments. I have some screenshots, although I expect OP to delete this post too.

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OP letting the mask slip:

No, but you need a good argument if you want me to support or act on your opinion.

What do you mean by respect? And is it an actual opinion, like “chocolate is delicious”, or is it just something bigoted you believe? That’s usually what people mean when they want “respect” for their “opinion”. If that’s the case, no, I don’t respect it and I don’t respect you.

If it seems like an unexamined opinion or an opinion based on faulty logic, yes.

However I will often respect opinions if the person owns up to the non logic of it, even if the opinion affects me. Ie: "we should paint the living room this color because it's better than the other choice" I need to know your reasoning and your plan for decorating. "I don't know why, but I just feel in my gut this is the right color for me" I'm in, no further discussion needed. Same goes for vacation spots, daily activities, even bigger decisions like what car to get or what neighborhood to live in. I respect that you understand this opinion is based on nothing tangible and I will respect that.

I can't support or respect when my partner or friend feels strongly about something but their opinion is based on crap logic or no information whatsoever but they won't own up to that for some reason.

If it's a totally subjective opinion, no. You can like food I don't, or even have kinks I don't.

If it's even slightly fact-based, kind of yes, unless you keep it entirely to yourself. I don't have to agree with it to respect it, though, if you have any reasonable kind of argument.

Like someone else said, in practice nobody actually cares what I respect.

I would say yes. The only time you don’t is when I already agree with you, but that’s because I (hopefully) already know the good argument.

I don’t believe in “common sense”, that’s just the biases someone already has. Some of them correct, some of them not, all unchecked therefore all invalid as a basis for anything.

The depends on the opinion

If you want to persuade me to think the way you do, yes.

I respect facts and objective evidence. Opinion is immaterial.

Otherwise, there is no point to it.

This is a spread from yes to no where "yee" applies to hypothetical things that are fully objective and "no" to hypothetical things that are fully subjective

Can you give an example of what you mean by someone respecting your opinion and someone not respecting it?

As many others have said in this thread, it comes down to how you define "respect" and "opinion". Based on some of your responses, I think you are using a broad definition of "opinion", though some more clarification might be useful there. If you're worried about partisanship adding bias, try offering equivalent opinions from different directions as examples, eg "I think Trump should be president" and "I think Biden should be president".

good. no. valid. yes. as long as the premise is reasonable and its logical. If its about how you feel or everyone does it type of thing I just won't care as long as it just effects you.

You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to eviscerate your opinion if it is my opinion that it’s shit.

Though I try to debate ideas with logic and evidence.

There's tiers.

I have no respect for an opinion that the holder doesn't understand well enough to argue since they are parroting a "common sense" belief based on premises which are easily disprovable.

I can respect an opinion I disagree with which the holder understands, but up until the point where they are willing to argue in good faith. If they are deliberately spreading info which they know to be false because it's to their advantage that others hold those beliefs, I thinknit's a major problem. If they refuse to entertain any challenge to their opinion however obvious, that is also a problem.

The opinion I disagree with which I respect the most is one that is in total good faith which causes me to question my opinion. This is how I learn.

Who cares if internet jerks respect your opinion?

Yes

I don't think in terms of respect about something like this as this leans towards some kind of snobbery or predudice. Either I agree or don't. Regardless of any perceived level of knowledge or intelligence behind an argument, I'll respond as a point of advancing shared knowledge rather than trying to 'win'.

Depends on what it is about. We meet and you say :

• You're vegan. Good.
• You use Linux. Good.
• You're on the Fediverse. Good.
• You love bicycles. Good.

Now we meet again and you talk about privacy and then ask for my WhatsApp number (which is non existing) to continue that conversation later -> The heat is on! 🔥

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

If your opinion is that kittens are cute, I'm on board. If your opinion is that everyone over 30 should be sterilized unless they are in a top 10 percent earning category, you're going to have to work for respect for that, and better have a damn convincing argument.

If your opinion is regarding cheese, you're already on very thin ice

It depends on what your opinion is and what you mean by respect.

If your opinion is not well explained or backed up by evidence/logic and isn't something completely subjective, what is there to respect?

If your opinion is reprehensible, downright stupid, or ignorant? You have access to the entire base of human knowledge and are still ignorant, so what is there to respect?

Your opinion is completely logical/uncontroversial or is well backed by evidence? Where does respect come into it?