this post was submitted on 21 Apr 2024
134 points (94.7% liked)

Progressive Politics

1075 readers
223 users here now

Welcome to Progressive Politics! A place for news updates and political discussion from a left perspective. Conservatives and centrists are welcome just try and keep it civil :)

(Sidebar still a work in progress post recommendations if you have them such as reading lists)

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

"The Make Everyone A Spy provision will be abused, and history will know who to blame," one civil liberties advocate said.“

all 45 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Melkath@kbin.social 33 points 7 months ago

Guys! We need to ban TikTok, they do digital spying!

Also, we need to do even more digital spying!

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

HEY COWARDS! Remember when you said you needed guns to rise up against tyrannical government?

Why you hiding behind your couch, cowards 😂😂😂😂

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

Hey psycho, some people do what they can to avoid violence in our lives. We aren't Russia (for now) so we can still effect change by doing away with first past the post voting via state level electoral reform. Lesser evil voting habits have taken us down this predictable path, and we must work on introducing competition into the electoral process.

That said, work towards peace, prepare for the inevitable.

SocialistRA.org

[–] cmeu@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

What happened to my country

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Working backwards

  • Trump
  • Fox News
  • 9/11
  • Reagan
  • Nixon
  • Vietnam
  • McCarthy
  • WWII
[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

forgot business plot.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago

Also all that lead

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Working backwards

  • Biden
  • Trump
  • Fox News
  • 9/11
  • Reagan
  • Nixon
  • Vietnam
  • McCarthy
  • WWII

FTFY silly goose. You left out the one whose administration is actually doing it right now!

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

redundant to include that but sure

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ya, listing all of the bad Republicans in history, but not listing the Democrat who is behaving today like those Republicans did back then is totally redundant, and isn't trying to play mental gymnastics to help the Democrat party evade accountability for their current actions.

Because its just those Republicans, not the Neocon Democrat President currently sitting in the Oval Office.

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

No it's redundant because he's part of the subject of the article posted and my list wasn't meant to be an exhaustive dissertation on the subject of fear mongering authoritarianism.

So maybe take a step back before you accuse someone of doing mental gymnastics. An obviously flippant comment such as mine shouldn't warrant such an antagonistic response.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So maybe take a step back before you accuse someone of doing mental gymnastics. An obviously flippant comment such as mine shouldn’t warrant such an antagonistic response.

Nah. We good.

Maybe take a step back and say what you mean. Make sure you dont sound like the perpetual "All of the good stuff is attributable to my guy in office, but all the bad stuff is the result of 'it takes an election cycle for actions to take effect.'"

Happy you can see that America's biggest problem is a Democrat who is behaving like a neocon, while the Blue MAGA legion go "bUt TrUmP!!!!!"

[–] Wytch@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You have a hammer, and every problem is a nail. I never said anything like what you're suggesting, and you're reading into it what you want to.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So maybe take a step back before you accuse someone of doing mental gymnastics.

Maybe take a step back and say what you mean.

Feel like our exchange was answered here.

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Bro you out here doing backflips calling people doing jumping jacks gymnasts.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The president and his cabinet aren't Congress.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What are you even saying here?

I am responding to someone who listed 3 Republican Presidents, didn't list the Republican President during 9/11 who enacted all of the worst things that still exist in American politics, he listed a Republican Senator, but conveniently left out the Democrat that is behaving like all of them.

Quite a feat of mental gymnastics that tries to make the subject at hand Republicans fault and not the fault of current Democrats and the 2 party system as a whole.

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

All I'm saying is that when a bill goes through Congress and is ratified into law it's not the president that does that.

I'm not sure if he opposes or supports this bill but for the purposes of ratifying the law that is on Congress. Just trying to be accurate.

There are lots of things to be upset with Joe Biden about this is not one of them. This is it write your congressman situation.

[–] pop@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago

What your country has been openly doing the world over just became the law so they don't need to keep it a secret anymore.

Snowden was a decade ago and if you're asking "what happened to my country" now, I guess you are just ignorant about much horrible things that your country does.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 4 points 6 months ago

was never yours, dear.

[–] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Turns out reforming capitalism only delays end stage, it doesn't prevent it.

[–] Juice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

If only we had gotten a warning from someone whose name rhymes with Snarl Barx, Gladymir Fenin or Bosa Fuxemburg