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[–] DarkNightoftheSoul@mander.xyz 85 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm starting to get the impression that israel is up to no good at all.

[–] Melkath@kbin.social 30 points 7 months ago

It's cool.

America is the big brother shielding them from consequence.

Israel will be just fine.

[–] livus@mander.xyz 65 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It is beyond obscene and makes Meta complicit in Israel's killings of "pre-crime" targets and their families, in violation of International Humanitarian Law and Meta's publicly stated commitment to human rights.

I mean if true - and it likely is - then this would be the third genocide Meta is implicated in, by my count, (Rohingya, Tigray) and there may be others they haven't been called out for yet.

[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

yeah but like I still use Facebook to staybin touch with people, and its super convenient despite the unusable enshittification, so I'm gonna need at least five genocides to stop.

[–] livus@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

they would never do a fourth genocide.

[–] livus@mander.xyz 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

nah. nah I'm kind of expecting it tbh. got my affairs mostly... not in order, but wrapped up.

[–] land@lemmy.ml 31 points 7 months ago (62 children)

Israel aimed to spark a regional conflict to avoid facing genocide allegations. However, Iran didn't buy into their PR tactics.

[–] boyi@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

that's is basically Israel strategy. Don't know on what ground you're getting downvoted.

Israel wants to involve the US into the conflict, to create the perceptive diversion when it moves into Rafah and continue towards their goals. However, Iran took the necessary steps, e.g. informing the US in advance their course of actions, so that the US won't be forced into the conflict.

That's basically what happened. The US keep themselves out, Iran gets to retaliate while keeping a distance from the US, and Israel will be on their own should it moves forward to Rafah.

[–] land@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. I’m waiting for the ICJ ruling that will hold Israel and its allies accountable for genocide. Israel was never about Jews. It’s funny Jews standing for Palestine get called antisemitic pathetic!

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

yeah, Iran being the fucking heroes here. generally fuck that government, but they're the only adults in the extremely apocalyptic room. at least adolescents who know how to babysit?

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This is why metadata matters so much. Plenty of "end-to-end encrypted" apps only handle the content of messages, but know on the server side what people are in what places. Or even keep a historical record of who joined and left. Or just don't bother encrypting...

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There is functionally no way to hide this kind of information from a state actor short of some onion routing scheme mesh networking.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

Signal does a decent job just out of the box.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I'm surprised Israel is that discerning.

From what I can tell, they're killing people based on those people being inside the borders of Gaza.

I don't think those 13,000+ children were all using Whatsapp. The ones that couldn't read or write probably didn't find it especially useful.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just assumed Israel was killing people based on those people's proximity to exploding israeli ordnance

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[–] melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

well yes but you could create accounts for them after they died, and use a dead Hezbollah guys phone to invite them to whatsapp group. or just any phone. whichever.

you know, to be sure they were enemy combatants.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The only time they recognise those borders is when the command the war crimes units to enter.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I think they recognize them every time they want to stop a Palestinian from leaving.

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then they could just go off phone numbers.

[–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Signal just introduced a new feature to obscure phone numbers behind usernames

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

That's a lot of speculation. I'd like to learn the truth.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

The +972 article clearly mentioned Lavender using "being in WhatsApp groups" as a variable to designate targets.

Zuckerberg donating 125K to Zaka (the 40 beheaded babies propaganda group) and his other top Meta staff being massive Zionists living in israel is a rather direct link.

[–] h3ndrik@feddit.de 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Hmm. I mean it's an article citing another article, citing a book published under a pen name which seems to include a guide which says using WhatsApp groups could be an example of an information source...

Sounds more like Chinese whispers to me than journalism. I'm a bit cautious since everyone has strong opinions and lots of people spread misinformation... The donation certainly is an interesting fact. I'm not saying it's necessarily false. But also not enough to convince me.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah and israel just coincidentally bombs 200 aid worker and keeps bombing family homes.

The +972 article perfectly explains what is going on in Gaza right now. Also they are a pretty reliable source for left Israeli news if it's not Zionist propaganda writers publishing.

Lastly the IDF did not deny they are doing this when they were asked about it.

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