this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2023
255 points (94.7% liked)

Mildly Infuriating

35438 readers
675 users here now

Home to all things "Mildly Infuriating" Not infuriating, not enraging. Mildly Infuriating. All posts should reflect that.

I want my day mildly ruined, not completely ruined. Please remember to refrain from reposting old content. If you post a post from reddit it is good practice to include a link and credit the OP. I'm not about stealing content!

It's just good to get something in this website for casual viewing whilst refreshing original content is added overtime.


Rules:

1. Be Respectful


Refrain from using harmful language pertaining to a protected characteristic: e.g. race, gender, sexuality, disability or religion.

Refrain from being argumentative when responding or commenting to posts/replies. Personal attacks are not welcome here.

...


2. No Illegal Content


Content that violates the law. Any post/comment found to be in breach of common law will be removed and given to the authorities if required.

That means: -No promoting violence/threats against any individuals

-No CSA content or Revenge Porn

-No sharing private/personal information (Doxxing)

...


3. No Spam


Posting the same post, no matter the intent is against the rules.

-If you have posted content, please refrain from re-posting said content within this community.

-Do not spam posts with intent to harass, annoy, bully, advertise, scam or harm this community.

-No posting Scams/Advertisements/Phishing Links/IP Grabbers

-No Bots, Bots will be banned from the community.

...


4. No Porn/ExplicitContent


-Do not post explicit content. Lemmy.World is not the instance for NSFW content.

-Do not post Gore or Shock Content.

...


5. No Enciting Harassment,Brigading, Doxxing or Witch Hunts


-Do not Brigade other Communities

-No calls to action against other communities/users within Lemmy or outside of Lemmy.

-No Witch Hunts against users/communities.

-No content that harasses members within or outside of the community.

...


6. NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.


-Content that is NSFW should be behind NSFW tags.

-Content that might be distressing should be kept behind NSFW tags.

...


7. Content should match the theme of this community.


-Content should be Mildly infuriating.

-At this time we permit content that is infuriating until an infuriating community is made available.

...


8. Reposting of Reddit content is permitted, try to credit the OC.


-Please consider crediting the OC when reposting content. A name of the user or a link to the original post is sufficient.

...

...


Also check out:

Partnered Communities:

1.Lemmy Review

2.Lemmy Be Wholesome

3.Lemmy Shitpost

4.No Stupid Questions

5.You Should Know

6.Credible Defense


Reach out to LillianVS for inclusion on the sidebar.

All communities included on the sidebar are to be made in compliance with the instance rules.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

I don't know if I'm just doing something wrong but I built my family tree and the website seems to have barely any information about my family at all. I found out more just checking out our national archives then what I found on this website. It's maybe worth noting that I'm not in the US and it does appear to be somewhat US-centric.

The best it could find was a couple of enrollment records for voting and a single immigrant notification in an old newspaper. It didn't find these either by itself, I had to manually go though the search system to find it. The OCR didn't even get the spelling of the name correct.

I'm not sure what I expected but it was definitely better than this, especially for all the pay walls they throw up.

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 78 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You just have to keep giving them more and more private information about yourself and your unwitting family, then something magic happens.

[–] xaxl@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then cops use the data to track down DNA evidence in 40 year old cases

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well perhaps you should have refrained from killing those prostitutes 40 years ago‽

[–] darcy@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago

its just another way they collect data and track people.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Definitely US-centric. You have to pay extra to get records from some countries. Works very well for people in the US

[–] soviettaters@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clearly, you aren't a super white American. My family tree got filled up easily up until the 1600s because I have a bunch of family members with nothing better to do than catalog our family tree. Apparently one half of my family came from Scotland in the 16th century so I can claim that I'm Scottish-American now.

[–] paleasswhiteguy@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Source: actual Scot

[–] Senex@reddthat.com 13 points 1 year ago

Username checks out.

[–] mun_man@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think its so funny hearing people are American (whatever country their grandpappy came from) 😂

[–] staceybassoon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

We're just looking for something cooler than "I'm American."

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] BitingChaos@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've been paying $25 a month to run into relatives that all have their trees set to PRIVATE.

They're my cousins / second-cousins, and I'm not sure who their parents are or how they fit into my tree.

The site lets you look at US Census data... from the 1950s or some shit. So I can piece together family information upwards half a dozen ways to my grandparents and their parents and so on, but I can't seem to get any info from the system for anyone born after the 1950s.

I keep paying because I'm trying to solve a spooky family mystery.

[–] Ejh3k@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

That spooky family mystery is exactly why their family trees are all set to private.

[–] FiskFisk33@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

spooky family mystery

story time! :D

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Their grandpa married a ghost. They're 1/4 ghost.

[–] mawp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Scooby Doo & The Gang in: WHO KILLED MEEMAW?!

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

I was a spooky family mystery. There are records out there, particularly for the US, but you have think laterally and use resources outside their walled garden. US census records are only released after (IIRC) 70 years, so getting the 1950 census was a pretty big development. Beyond that, there are obituaries, phone books, newspapers, yearbooks, and others. I can even say from experience that the creepy "Radaris" style sites are usually leveraging some kernels of valid information in the free teaser data they show.

[–] Speculater@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I thought if I put my name and my parents and grandparents in, it would help me build a tree. Then it was so who are your great grandparents? Bitch that's why I'm here!?

[–] xaxl@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah exactly. I would have thought by the time I gave it a parents name or two that would be enough, but no.

load more comments (7 replies)
[–] lazyvar@programming.dev 16 points 1 year ago

Most of these services are US-centric because a lot of the necessary records to provide the information isn’t public in many countries outside of the US.

Birth records, death records, marriage records, divorce records, voting records, criminal records, etc. is considered public information in much of the US. Even address information can be found publicly and immigration records become available to the public after a certain time.

In a lot of countries, especially in many European countries, these are hard to access for people that aren’t the subject of these records, if accessible at all.

For example while court records are public in much of Europe, often times the names of private persons are censored because it’s not deemed necessary to know who the parties are to be able to check if the courts make fair decisions.
This automatically excludes criminal and divorce information from disseminating into the public.

Some countries will make some records public once the subject of those records have passed for X amount of years, but that’s still pretty rare.

As such services like these have limited use outside the United States.

[–] ndru@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I built my family tree and thought - oh neat, even more ancestors to disappoint.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

It’s a group effort so if nobody in your country uses it then it’s going to be a lot less helpful to you.

I don’t know how it gets started in an area because presumably everyone else you know would get the same experience as you when they sign in so how does it encourage people to start building the knowledge base up?

I know that it works in the UK. My wife has used it and found a lot of useful info but had to add her own info too.

[–] awildlala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I use familysearch.org. It’s free! I’m not sure what country you’re in, but I’ve found a lot of info on European, Italian, and some African ancestors through there.

[–] totallynotarobot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

“It’s free!” Is alarming and inappropriately cheerful.

These sites are sociopathic data harvesters, and if your relatives have any sense they’ll give you shit for exposing them to it as well. If it’s free, it’s probably even worse.

load more comments (5 replies)
[–] Koopa_Khan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It looks like this is sponsored by the Mormon Church. They haven’t spammed you have they?

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They own all of them. They have a large stake in Ancestry too. Also, the Mormon church has investment funds that own a ton of things. It was a big deal recently because they lied to the SEC to hide the size of it from their members.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensign_Peak_Advisors

Would you give 10% of your income to someone who has $124 billion already?

[–] xedrak@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Beyond this, they will use the data in their fucked up rituals to “Baptize the dead”. They will take your ancestors names, and retroactively baptize them into their church without consent from the deceased or family.

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I was raised LDS, though I had the good fortune to spot the BS as a teenager and haven't set foot in a church in almost 20 years. I did however, participate in the baptisms for the dead when I was like 16. The theology is bafflingly stupid and cheerfully inconsiderate (a lot like Mormons, LOL, amiright? I'll be here all week!).

At least when I did it, the notion is that everyone who died without a chance to honestly consider Mormon teachings is in a kind of low-intensity purgatory rather than straight-up Hell. In this place, they will still be pestered by missionaries, but for some reason it's critical that_ someone's_ body be physically baptized in their name. Mormons are taught that they should chug along collecting their relatives names so a random teenager in Boise who lied about whether they jerk off can get dunked in an industrial bathtub perched on top of mediocre statues of oxen. This checks the appropriate box on the deceased's spiritual resume, so if they accept the teachings in the afterlife, the pre-reqs to be fully Mormonized will have been met. The current rules are only to do [edit: submit] names of your actual relatives, but yeah... Familysearch says we're all related to "Thor Odinson" and Noah.

Of course, if it turned out the Mormons were right, there are some weird knock-on effects. First, why would Earthly missionary efforts be desirable at all? You're just giving people the chance to potentially doom themselves while they are still subject to bad influences. Second, why is there no accommodation for people whose names are not recorded? Fuck them, right? Third, what on God's green Kolob is the point of pretending there is a "choice." I have likely fucked myself, being a dirty quitter (My wife once overheard her parents' Mormon neighbors describe me as an "apostate"), but if it turns out the Mormons are right, I am gonna feel pretty fuckin' dumb, and similarly, barring some "The Good Place" shenanigans, literally 100% of the people who are given the chance to accept the "Gospel" after they're already dead will accept.

Personally, I think the LDS emphasis on genealogy was mostly a way to collect intel to assert control, inflate membership in the early days, create a shared sense of history and connection in Utah where literally none of the members had deep family roots and so many had abandoned their own families for this weird culty church. Then, finally, it gives nosy grandmas a way to do God's work while pursuing their hobbies. Like so many things in religion generally and Mormonism specifically, it kind of got out of hand.

[–] xedrak@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The current rules are only to do names of your actual relatives

Huh, that wasn’t the case the one time I was forced by my parents to do it. I didn’t have any names so they just assigned me random names. But I wouldn’t know how it is now.

literally 100% of the people who are given the chance to accept the "Gospel" after they're already dead will accept

Lol I literally had the same exact thought when all of this was explained to me. It makes no sense. But that’s par for the course for the entire religion sooooo……

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I meant was they are only supposed to put their own relatives into the system. By the time you get to the assembly line, I agree it's still 99% going to be randos.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Koopa_Khan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s good to know. I knew there had to be some sort of catch, but I wasn’t expecting that

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] awildlala@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow. my app cut off this comment so editing:

Nope! They send occasional emails when they find new records or a past relative’s birthday, but I have not received any spammy ones from the Mormons or asked to join their cult.

[–] Koopa_Khan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Good to know, thank you!

[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Least you had a free trial so that's something

load more comments
view more: next ›