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And what can we do to make the Internet a more safe and privacy friendly place and replace the ad business by something less unpleasant ?

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[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 105 points 7 months ago (2 children)

We care about your privacy which is why we are sharing your date with almost 1000 services 998 of which are fully redundant and only 1 is actually needed for the service we provide

[–] strawberry@kbin.run 52 points 7 months ago (4 children)

lmao I love when they say "we care about your privacy" then they go on to say exactly how much data they're gonna collect and process

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 months ago

Well, technically they do care about your privacy if your privacy is annoying to them and they wish it was gone.

[–] jkrtn@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

We care about your privacy! We can get a buck or two for it.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 7 months ago

I would actually respect it if they were honest in one of these.

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[–] Lemmy_2019@lemmy.one 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

Legitimate interests don't require a banner. The simple fact you see a banner means their lawyers know they couldn't convince the dumbest judge that they actually need that stuff.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 75 points 7 months ago

I think this bullshit is my personal record:

[–] tkc@feddit.uk 73 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] BruceLee@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago

And we have a winner woohoo !

[–] egonallanon@lemm.ee 43 points 7 months ago

1200ish is my personal best can't remember what site it was on.

As to what we can do not really a clue on a grand scale,i just block ads and cookies fanatically.

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I had high 700s, where even 1 is more than I can stomach. Thank devs for uBlock Origin.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Hey dude, we were going to hang out on Sunday. We were planning just us, but can I bring 651 friends along?"

[–] fckreddit@lemmy.ml 7 points 7 months ago

This is more like β€œCan my 651 friends snoop on our party?”

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 15 points 7 months ago

Based gorhill

To Raymond Hill, we owe SO MUCH.

And the list maintainers of course! (Who often accept donations whereas gorhill has always refused even a penny!)

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 months ago

we cure about your privacy, It's very valuable for us, so please, all your data are belong to us

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 30 points 7 months ago

I think I saw 1500 this week somewhere....

All I want to know is, how can it be profitable to be an ad broker at that point?

[–] macgyver@federation.red 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The F1 site was at 1200 last time I checked

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

458 from California just now

In β€œManage”, shows 437 β€œUser Consent” Site Vendors and 71 β€œLegitimate Interest” Site Vendors.

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First thing I thought of when I saw this post.

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[–] Sabata11792@kbin.social 17 points 7 months ago

I ususally have them blocked, but on some news site I remember seeing 750+ and off it wanted you to manually unchecked all of them one by one.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think i would legitimately just leave the site and block it at my pihole if i saw that

[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago

Sure. I'm a fanatical ad-blocker myself, but sometimes using Tor browser with the defaults.

[–] BorgDrone@lemmy.one 16 points 7 months ago

I’ve seen 1600+ myself.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How I feel looking at the number of "partners."

[–] federalreverse@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

Free buffet?

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 15 points 7 months ago

I think I recently saw ~840 somewhere.

To replace the current big tech business, I have a few suggestions:

  1. Use FOSS (Free and open source software)
  2. If this is not possible, try to find software that does not invade your privacy and made by a smaller company
  3. Try to avoid paying privacy invading companies. I'm not saying never pay for proprietary software, but try to only spend the money on ones that respect you.
  4. Spread the word about good FOSS apps
  5. Donate to FOSS
  6. Vote for politicians who are serious about antitrust
  7. If you have the skills, contribute to FOSS or make your own software!
  8. Use adblockers on websites that don't respect you and/or your privacy
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 15 points 7 months ago

Whenever I see a cookie banner say something like "We respect your privacy" I chuckle.

Because if they would actually respect my privacy, they wouldn't have had a banner in the first place.

[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 11 points 7 months ago

Around 2.000 no kidding

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

And what can we do to make the Internet a more safe and privacy friendly place and replace the ad business by something less unpleasant ?

Start paying for stuff. Subscriptions, etc.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Great, so now we get to pay for the privilege of having our data harvested by 814 "partners"

Remember: "if you aren't paying for the product then you are the product" is no longer accurate, you're the product regardless of paying or not now.

[–] frostwhitewolf@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Why just make money from subscription fees when you can make EVEN MORE money by serving adds as well?

I'm just happy that I got to see the glory days of the digital world before advertising moved in.

[–] MIDItheKID@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Yup. Just how cable TV started as "you pay extra for it, but you don't get any ads!" and then when they realized they had everybody hooked, they started showing ads.

Same thing with streaming services. Pay money for a service with no Ads. Oh what's that? Now that they realize they are your primary source of content, they are going to turn ads on unless you pay extra? Boom, gottem.

[–] dan@upvote.au 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Paying for a service is generally going to result in less of a push to monetize the data though, especially if it's a smaller provider or a private company.

We can't just give up and stick with ad supported services, but then not want to see ads... Ad-supported services are always going to have to try monetize you somehow, whereas paid services don't always need to.

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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure I've seen four digits. That was a "lol no".

And what can we do to make the Internet a more safe and privacy friendly place and replace the ad business by something less unpleasant ?

Websites have to pay their bills. Ads, subscriptions or microtransactions; take your pick.

The one way I can think of that would retain the anonymous character of the internet would be HTTP microtransactions by some kind of crypto. Hopefully one of the non-wasteful ones, so not Bitcoin.

[–] emb@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think what you're describing at the end there is basically what Brave (browser) tried to do.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Huh, I missed that. Yep, they were using Bitcoin back before it was fully a circlejerk, looks like, which is reasonable. Now I just know it as a Chrome spinoff that pretends to be private, haha.

It looks like Chrome's trying to do something similar, although there's a high chance Google will attempt a walled garden version.

"Web Monetization" is the keyword. It could be great for things like Lemmy, too, where hosting costs might eventually become a major obstacle.

[–] BruceLee@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 months ago

I believe it was a bit under 900 vendors. I'm gonna take a capture next time I break your record and posted it back here. It would be fun competiting.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

I can relate to the guy that had to put that number in. Prolly went along the lines of « can we get some budget to identify our various processing activities and what processors are involved ? »… to what management said « lol no just put the overall numbers inΒ Β». And the guy included the kitchen company in there because fuck it.

[–] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] EfreetSK@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

9gag, they also have 816. Is this where the screenshot is from?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, we've moved on from Reddit. Do we still make fun of 9gag now?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't we? Still a shithole over there.

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[–] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

I think it was some site I found via some Linux news page, but not 9gag. A few months ago I saw another site with 800 something as well. Odd.

[–] _dev_null@lemmy.zxcvn.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

ITT I wish those that can recall would name and shame.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Found an article on the uk guardian page that wanted me to accept cookies from 76 partners. Noped out

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