Just by looking at the number '4' in print, it makes me wonder if whoever made the design is stupid or did it on purpose, and no other choice exists lol

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think what the number 44 specifically would look like was probably way outside the radar of whoever designed that font. Yeah, it looks similar, but even noticing that I still really wouldn't have assumed that someone wearing intends it as a nazi symbol. Is there really a need to announce a ban and solidify that it will be one? Just change the damn font going forward. Are they going to ban 88 too?

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 7 points 7 months ago

There's only 23 players in a squad and, traditionally, only the numbers 1-11 used on the pitch. There are no good reasons for 44, let alone 88, to exist.

"Ban" is a clickbait word. Adidas has decided not to make any more of them because it doesn't want to be associated with Nazis. Oh noes.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

It's a... lets say, European design, of the number four.

[–] SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So they gonna buy it online from another country and brag even more about how rare it is?

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

No, the design will be changed

[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I can see why 😂

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Nazi symbolism: not allowed
Actual nazism: enforced by law

They don't give a shit, they just don't want a bunch of neo-nazis running around bringing attention to how bad things have gotten.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Fucking loons..

[–] heavyboots@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ouch. They should either change the font or just ban 44 globally.

[–] good_hunter@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t find it extremely resembling, but okay. Will they ban 88 on all shirts ever? Extremists will find symbols in anything.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

88 is too "generic" to be banned. The double sig rune in a similar graphic style as the SS symbol is pretty damn specific.

Edit : actually it's nothing like a ban. This is just Adidas understandably trying not to be associated with neo nazis. They could very well "ban" people from buying custom 88 shirts too because of the association and the fact that no actual football player uses it in the first place

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The font resembles it after someone made the connection and put it forward as obvious, but still it is just some extreme connection imo. What are they gonna do next, ban the symbol from history books or popular games like Wolfenstein?

Also, (deep sigh) what does 88 symbolize? Care to inform the "ignorant"?

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

8th letter of the alphabet (H), twice => short for "Heil Hitler". Very common way for nazis to recognize each other

What are they gonna do next, ban the symbol from history books or popular games like Wolfenstein?

History is history, so I don't think it's banned from history books as long as it doesn't glorify nazi Germany or engages in revisionism. About videogames though... Until 2018, yes.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. I only remember this stuff from my German class and my mom who lived in Germany for a few years in the 70s. Also, read the article. This isn't a legal thing, this is simply a brand trying to avoid getting associated with nazis

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 3 points 7 months ago

Damn, I knew some people born in 1988 pick usernames that ends with 88. Does that mean they're incorrectly identified as Nazi?

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Thank you for the explanation. Unfortunately I can't reach the link. It seems the generation of the symbolism originates in the extremist groups, so I'm wrong in pointing the connection to the other side.

However, I'm still strongly against historic revisionism through whitewashing some elements and making appropriate depictions a taboo, whether in books or in cultural elements like games, video, or other things. The more we separate these things as strict black and white things, the more we are numbed to the gradual shift in the evil's direction. Making things taboo and learned underhand via shady gatherings or groups only serves them, does not help rationally put that knowledge into the right mental place.