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Raising a child costs between $13k[2] and $35k[1] per year in the USA – depending on where you live and who you ask.

With a minimum wage job ($7.25/hr) you need to work about 5 to 13 hours per day to make that much – before taxes.

[1] https://smartasset.com/financial-advisor/cost-raise-child-2023

[2] https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/090415/cost-raising-child-america.asp

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[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 40 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

More proof it’s more punishment than concern for the baby. To them, sex is a sin unless for procreation and your punishment for having sex for fun or while poor (or sexually assaulted) is that you have to bear the burden because you sinned. They can’t handle their own sexual shit because it’s not allowed to be talked about, so they make us all deal with it. She doesn’t want to have her 3rd baby, but she’s a good Christian woman who can’t say no to her husband, so she has to have it, and she wants other women to have to have it too. The fawning over babies and speaking to the “sacredness of life” is the facade they wear because it sounds more “Christian”.

Oh that and, male power over women’s bodies. Because, you never know, that mystery pregnancy you got after the club might just be Jesus! Zeus came as coins ffs, so God may appear to the new Mary as rohypnol. Who knows?

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[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 29 points 7 months ago (8 children)

It's fascinating that this isn't something that is always thrown back in the so called "pro life" person's face. They're only pro birth. They don't care if the baby that comes out is fed, clothed, housed, eventually educated, etc. Or at least, they don't believe there's any collective responsibility to take care of that baby.

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

It is. They don't care because they're arguing in bad faith to begin with. They don't care about children. They never did. This was about identity politics and concern trolling.

They proved this by immediately jumping to "trans panic" the instant roe was overruled by the illegitimate scotus who apparently forgot the 9th and 14th amendments even existed but they sure remembered "tradition & history"

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[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives want live babies to grow up to be dead soldiers. George Carlin

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[–] Luftruessel@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)
[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 11 points 7 months ago

Thanks for pointing it out. I corrected the post.

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes and we should. We should also make childcare free.

[–] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It can't be free.

What you're actually saying is that "childcare should be communally funded by taxes".

I'm not on board with that unless it comes with limits on reproduction, especially for those who pay zero taxes.

Stop creating more human lives when you can't even independently support your own.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

First of all you'll be really happy with all those babies when you turn 80 and society hasn't fallen because the average age is 70.

Second, when childcare is free more people can join the workforce, this increases taxes and productivity.

But maybe the most important it will make society more equal. When you're poor working almost doesn't make sense if you have to spend 80% of your salary on childcare. So more people don't work, these people are usually women. That really doesn't help with an equal society, because a big group can't really work so they can't really climb any ladders.

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[–] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

something something Bootstraps something something worked my way to the top

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Honestly, I hope this all gets pushed through. My salary adjustment would be glorious. Otherwise, I'm quitting my job and watering flowers at Lowe's. No need for all the stress when I'm barely making above minimum wage at that point.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

A lot of the issues here can be side-stepped with proper sexual education classes.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 13 points 7 months ago

No amount of education is going to side step getting fucked in the ass like working for minimum wage.

They also tried to sterelize the lupenproletariat and it didn't end well.

Plus, no matter how many destitute families expire, they refill the servitor ranks with brain draining the rest of the planet.

Because without maintaining an excess supply of working hands, the marginal cost of labour would explode. And the rich want their latté.

All this to say, the low wages are kept low by design.It's the very reason for all the assfuckery.

So no, it won't be solved by getting the poors to fuck less and have less kids.

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[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If they were the men who would get pregnant, there would be free abortion services in any hardware store.

[–] SkippingRelax@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Make it an abortion kit

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

"No, god won't stop abortions from happening, but he makes sure that all wealthy people are good and all poor people are bad and deserve it."

[–] daltotron@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You know, as much as I do like this website, I do find it kind of tiring how the top posts tend to just be like. Like this is an NPC meme, you know? This is a chad vs virgin type of meme. This is about a step away from choosing to portray your opposition as a soy wojack. Sometimes I find that kind of funny because of how absurdly idiotic and brainbroken it reveals the creator of the meme to have been, but I dunno, something about the mainstream adoption of this kind of thing is just kind of incredibly depressing. It's like I am seeing the mainstream consciousness break apart in real time.

Can we go back to advice animals and rage comics, guys?

[–] TheDonkerZ@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

Memes have become a sort of coping mechanism/method of communication, and it just reflects the the broader state of the world around them.

Places like Lemmy have becomes bastions for people to share their thoughts and opinions, because the overwhelming consensus is the acknowledgment of being helpless and this is a way to vent and share (what should be) obvious solutions to the problems we're facing.

Sure, we go out and vote and talk to friends and family about the things we can do to make change, but we're not in the class of people to make that change happen.

So I say fuck it, post away the neo-nilhism memes, I'll upvote em and laugh away the enormous issues the world has.

[–] bleistift2@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago

With a minimum wage job ($7.25/hr) you need to work about 5 to 13 hours per day to make that much – before taxes.

This is the main point of this post. The meme is just a means to gain attention. I believe people are more likely to consume meme posts than plaintext.

[–] Midnitte@beehaw.org 2 points 7 months ago

Many would be surprised to learn that "god" or "nature" have aborted more pregnancies than there are humans alive.

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