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[–] simple@lemm.ee 50 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Yeah it's easy for something to be canon when there are absolutely 0 consequences and an infinite number of universes so they can retcon anything they want later

[–] MortyMcFry@aussie.zone 13 points 7 months ago

Iron Man's snap ended my interest

[–] qooqie@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Exactly how I felt. I knew it was heading towards multiverse stuff, but it ruins any impact of any action that the characters take. Sure Ironman might’ve snapped himself into death in that universe, but there’s infinite hims so who cares? Multiverse writing for any fandom is a mistake

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Retcon, recast, revisit, pivot to standalone stories, nothing "matters" anymore. It might have gone better if they'd used it more sparingly, but leaning in has made it exhausting, and I say that as someone who still generally gets around to seeing things and doesn't hate them. It definitely reduced my senses of urgency and engagement though. They took too many lessons from the comics and made their stories feel less like events and more like things you'll catch up on when you're bored.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Uhh... they've always been canon to the movies. Remember when Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was cleaning up the mess left behind from Thor 2? Or the constant references to the Battle of New York? The Netflix Marvel shows made references to the MCU films all the time.

It's the reason I preferred the MCU over the DCEU. DC's TV shows had absolutely nothing to do with their new movies, so they didn't contribute to the world building. It felt pointless to watch stand-alone series that went nowhere, so I skipped them all. But the Marvel series were all set in the MCU, so it was developing more heroes who could potentially make cameos on the big screen. Or further developing heroes who were previously on the big screen, like Wanda, Loki, Phil Coulson, Hawkeye, etc.

[–] TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

DC's TV shows had absolutely nothing to do with their new movies, so they didn't contribute to the world building.

It may not have been related to the movies, but the Arrowverse was a shared universe of its own. In fact, the DCEU and the Arrowverse crossed over once (very briefly).

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 3 points 7 months ago

The first big crossover with those shows was so fun, I wish they had kebt the quality up.

[–] po-lina-ergi@kbin.social 4 points 7 months ago

Importing events FROM the movies is a very different thing to exporting events TO the movies.

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

IIRC, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. was said to have branched not long after whichever one of those came later.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I see nothing in that article supporting the headline.

Just a line about "looking back to the mythology while building on the foundation" which means nothing and commits to using none of the supposedly dropped characters of Foggy and Karen.

If Matt suddenly has his own firm and no supporting staff while also being a superhero at night... it's not gonna work.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I wanted to see She Hulk get smacked down by Jeri Hogarth from Jessica Jones, Jeri was a true badass legal shark, unlike the wimpy Jessica Waters. And a Jessica Jones / She Hulk fight would have been awesome.

[–] Tiltinyall@beehaw.org 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just wanna see Jessica Jones again. It's not coming back to stream is it?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

All the Netflix Marvels are now on Disney.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Canon in that it’s part of Earth-19999 or canon in that it’s just part of the MCU in an unknown universe?