These political propaganda memes are getting out of control.
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its election season in the us, and climate change season in the rest of the world.
the memes are probably gonna reflect that
Check OP's profile, it's filled to the brim with "meme" propaganda.
Y'all should probably look up the origins of Lemmy or FOSS in general.
It just sounds like you don't particularly subscribe to his political positioning.
My dude, I have downloaded a lot of his memes and liked most of them. That doesn't mean it isn't propaganda.
thats kinda what i said, i think you replied to the wrong guy?
OP is a Communist and posts to leftist-aligned meme subs, correct.
Ah yes, the hammer and sickle; a symbol known throughout the world for championing gay rights.
It's almost like they added some other symbol in there to alter the meaning for a new generation.
What other symbol did they add?
Bro... Just count the things with symbolic value in the bottom image
I don't understand the meme. It doesn't even make sense ironically. I assume it's agenda of the insane, a troll, or misclicking off shitposts—though I imagine it wouldn't even make sense there.
I'll just land on the assumption that OP is nonsensical and "memes" are their outlet of instability.
I made it to made fun of this: 
Maybe it's just me but it seems a bit convoluted...
Why would you want to make fun of soldiers honoring their fallen?
Its not about that, this originated from the outrage when Collin Kapernik was taking the knee during the national anthem.
Every dead soldier had it coming, actually
Because soldiers, unless forcibly conscripted, are morons.
That soldier is kneeling for religion, not a fallen peer.
That's a grave marker.
A cross can be a grave marker, but so can a tombstone. The phrase is “I kneel for the cross.” The cross symbolizes a religion, not dead people.
The whole saying, “I stand for the flag. I kneel for the cross,” is used by many more people than just soldiers.
No its not.
You can clearly see the dirt piled up as a grave. That's tombstone.
No it isn't, and even if it was I dont really care, this is just one of the many iterations of the phrase 
Kneeling for religions doesn't make any sens. Religions always has a purpose for it's symbolism and rites, you kneel for a reason. Here it's for the dead.
People kneel to pray for all sorts of things.
And all of them are reasons to kneel for, religion itself isn't a reason, religion gives you a reason.
The argument was made that the kneeling was for a fallen soldier. I don’t think that interpretation is correct. You, too, seem to agree that that’s not the only reason to kneel for the cross.
Edit: Upon a bit more reflection, this particular graphic for this saying could mean a dead soldier since it’s a soldier praying. And crosses are sometimes used for soldiers’ grave markers. But not always. And you can find soldiers praying in front of other crosses. And soldiers don’t pray only for the dead when kneeling before a cross. I’d have to ask the artist her intentions.
What would be another reason? What i'm saying is religion isn't a reason, honoring the deads is.
Is there something else, maybe i didn't understand what you meant?
Edit : Yes in this particular case it's a soldier on the grave of its brother in arms who died at war. Not sure who the artist is but the meaning is pretty clear, stand for America and honor the soldiers that fought for it in war.
It could be a soldier praying for a safe tour.
But see my edit. If the artist meant it to be a fallen soldier as the reason, I could believe it. I don’t think it’s the only possibility though.
So what is the possibility you meant by "kneeling to religion" ?
I wrote “for” not “to”
I meant, it’s a religious gesture.
Sending mixed signals here
How so?
Kneeling for the US flag is kneeling for an imperialist bourgeois state, which is incompatible with communism at the most fundamental level. This meme looks like a patriotic socialist 
It depends on what you interpret kneeling to mean. In the US, kneeling for the flag or kneeling for the national anthem is a form of protest when tradition dictates that you should stand with your hand over your heart. In recent years, the act has made news due to NFL players (starting with Colin Kaepernick) kneeling in protest of police brutality and racial inequality in the US. It is not an act of reverence as if you were kneeling before a ruler or deity.
Kneeling for the US flag and supporting communism/socialism and LGBTQ rights are all very leftist concepts.
If would be a good meme if it actually made reference to Kaepernick. Kneeling for a symbol is historically honorary, so without Kaepernick the meme is ambiguous. It wasn’t so much that Kaepernick was kneeling, it was that he was not standing for the flag with everyone else.
If you're unfamiliar with America and it's traditions, I can see your point. Americans don't need the extra visual aid. "Kneeling for the flag" only means one thing.
I'm American and I didn't get the reference.
Fair. I can only speak about my lived experience. It may have faded from the public eye, but when I was living in the states, just saying the word "kneel" would have gotten half the population frothing at their mouth.
Yeah, I think I would've have gotten it in 2019, but kneeling definitely isn't at the top of my mind as a form of protest. And even at the time it seemed odd to me because kneeling is almost always interpreted as a show of respect.