Great, then we should stop funding their government and military spending. If they won't stop, we can. Of course we won't, but we could and should.
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Yeah seriously what the fuck is going on. Where's the line, is there even a line?
There is none.
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I cannot find a single person on earth that can give a valid reason for sending them any money or armament whatsoever. We gain absolutely nothing from supporting them. Nothing at all.
Conservatives cry crocodile tears about "wasting money". Every penny ever sent to Israel has been wasted. It's not an investment. There is no return. There is no political or financial gain of any kind for us.
US gains an ally in a very important region of the world. They have huge strategic value. Saying there is nothing is misguided.
We have an ally next door, Jordan.
We'd probably have more allies if we dropped support.
What we are doing is equivalent to us deciding to support North Korea and being shocked that all of a sudden we lose regional support from just about everyone.
Israel, especially with an ongoing genocide, is toxic to stability and alliances. It isolates more than it gives strategic advantage.
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Looks like allying with Israel has only been detrimental to the US. It's been great for Zionists who need the US' protection, though.
Osama bin Laden cited US' support for Israel as one of the reasons for the 9/11 attacks.
Think about the billions, or perhaps trillions, of dollars the US has lost out on because of its support of Israel.
We need to drop them like a bad habit.
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Like they really need an ally there to bomb middle east to rubble.
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Sounds like Bibi is trying to implement some sort of “final solution” with regards to the Palestinians.
It is truly flabbergasting to watch the Israeli government categorically ignore the incredibly obvious and terrible irony here.
Ironically Israel was never really against holocaust, they just want to make sure that it's Arabs instead of Jews.
It just proves to me that people are people.
How can we get to the root of our problems if we continue to group people from different regions as separate and distinct?
We’re all the same species. We’re humans dehumanizing humans to make killing humans easier under the leadership of a tiny fraction of our species fighting to go down in history. Same as it ever was.
Even when we do our absolute best to be good to each other, we still break ourselves into groups. “You can’t wear braids, that’s cultural appropriation!” The person who says that means well, but ultimately we have to stop treating each other as, well, other.
The only thing that makes us any different is actually something that we should strive to see as similarity. That is which individuals from which time influenced what area and how that don’t really matter and was just luck (or bad luck) of the draw.
So what if 3,000 years ago some dude thought it was cool to paint stripes on his face and wear a big hat which lead to millions painting stripes on their faces while wearing big hats over there in a distant land.
It’s the same damn thing as some dude over here thinking that a white wig and a big frilly shirt was rad and millions following in his footsteps.
It really is simple. Our cultures are built from people who came and went before us and folks following them and spreading the rad (or ugly) shit they did.
Our culture has to reach a point where it is considered a collective and shared human culture.
Who fucked who, where, and how much influence they left on their descendants and how much we give a shit about the where isn’t helping us. If an alien abducted 10 humans from different regions they wouldn’t even give a thought to how our history separates us. They’d just have 10 of a species from the planet earth.
I hope we get it together one day. It breaks my heart that those people are suffering so terribly right now. The malnourished kids in those photos remind me of the ones from the holocaust.
It would be nice if the people in power could relate their suffering to that of their grandparents. It really would.
Sorry I’m all over the place.
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Israel has decided to implement a "final solution" to the "Palestinian question".
Jewish Hitler.
actually...Israeli Hitler would be more appropriate. Not all Jews support Ben (and Israel in that matter) ... But most Israelis do seem to support Ben, otherwise they could've just just gathered around the gov building and demanded his step-down.
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And what, pray tell, is “total victory”?
You know... Total as in "Final" and victory as in "Solution". It's more polite than saying genocide.
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Sounds like he never lost his way and genocide was always the goal.
And after all Palestinians in Gaza are murdered, Netanyahu will bring up that Hamas is also in the West Bank and Lebanon.
And after that, maybe Jordan. Then perhaps Syria. Fascists can't stay in power without whipping up xenophobia.
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I'm sure AIPAC has told Netanyahu they won't let US politicians stop the flow of money and arms to Israel (AIPAC is spending 100 million to keep progressives out of office). The criticism is just theater. Biden only started changing his language when people started voting "uncommitted" in battleground states, and he is still shipping arms to Israel every 36 hours. The Israeli blockade of humanitarian aid is barely mentioned officially, the air-dropped aid is woefully inadequate and little more than virtue signalling. 3 months ago, when Gazan civilian casualties were at 21,000+, Congress passed a bill making criticizing Zionism/Israel legally equal to antisemitism. All this shows that Netanyahu just needs to keep accepting aid and let Biden talk for political reasons until he's re-elected.
The US needs to stop funding terrorists.
The US needs to stop funding genocide.
Use the word. It's important. It's what it is. This is a modern holocaust happening before our eyes, and we are complicit in it.
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Yes mein führer! heels click
It should be known as "The Israeli Self-Defense Genocide" in the history books.
Am I the only one who has been hearing the frustrations coming from democrats and Biden about Netanyahu? Reading these comments you'd think Biden has been best buddy's with Netanyahu and all is squeaky clean in their relationship, which is very, VERY much not the case. You'd also think that democratic leadership didn't just call out Netanyahu and suggest Israeli's vote him out over Gaza.
It's so weird that Biden is simultaneously Genocide Joe and Pro Hamas Biden.
I know talk is cheap and we are still sending military aid to Israel, but it all comes down to Biden facing daily trolley problems and balancing keeping friendly relationships with our one (nuclear capable) middle eastern country, taking the US seriously as a country that can stop a genocide by saying no to this (nuclear capable) middle eastern country, a reelection, and sending a message to the United States allies and adversaries of if we will or will not support who we say we will support.
The answer to stop sending arms to Israel is clear to us, but let's not pretend it's that easy. The rules for rulers are not that straightforward.
I don’t give Biden credit for resisting Netanyahu. During the Trump years we heard endlessly about Republicans who privately criticized Trump but publicly defended him slavishly. They get no credit, so why should Biden?
Biden’s policy was to publicly hug Netanyahu and hope that doing so would make him easy to pressure behind closed doors. It failed repeatedly. Biden is unwilling to pressure Netanyahu publicly and is instead taking the heat for him, with nothing in return. It’s pathetic and bringing down his campaign.
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Do I see a little moustache growing on Benny's lip? Total Victory kinda sounds similar to "Final Solution"
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"total victory" sure sounds like they've given some thought to their objectives and it's no accident they're killing lots of civilians
"final solution" vibes
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total victory sounds like "wollt ihr den totalen krieg"
Before starting a war, ask yourself what victory would look like. It appears here that the goal is wiping Gaza entirely and anything short of that will be construed as a loss.
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Israel lost it's way decades ago whenbit decides genocide over peace.
Large parts of the Israeli public want a deal, fearing that hostages are held in poor conditions and time is running out to bring them home alive.
Are they even thinking at their own people themselves? It seems to me they want the total destruction of gaza, including the hostages cought in these massive operations.
Disgusting savage
BDS
Do you want the total war?
Do you want it, if necessary, more total and radical than anything that we can yet today even conceive?
-Bibi Goebels, basically
I was against this from the beginning after the first day of asswopping. That's when the aggression should have stopped. Now I'm growing totally against this shit. I mean the civilians who have not much input are literally dying from hunger. What else do the Israeli government want? Can they do that without spending more American resources? I don't want to end up having to watch NOVA 20 years from now explaining how the US became involved in the yet another worse human castretosfe of the century. I'll be older and would probably fall asleep.
Maybe we just stop helping the Israeli government now?
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Very disappointing to see from him. It is time to not support Israel.
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