this post was submitted on 15 Mar 2024
209 points (98.2% liked)

News

23305 readers
3994 users here now

Welcome to the News community!

Rules:

1. Be civil


Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.


2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.


Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.


3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.


Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.


4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.


Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.


5. Only recent news is allowed.


Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.


6. All posts must be news articles.


No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.


7. No duplicate posts.


If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.


8. Misinformation is prohibited.


Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.


9. No link shorteners.


The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.


10. Don't copy entire article in your post body


For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Testing commissioned by Mamavation blog found high levels of a marker of PFAS in nine of 11 baggies tested

top 21 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] player2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here is the take away:

The only brand that did not show any markers of PFAS was Ziploc. Public health advocates say the best way consumers can protect themselves is to use glass containers instead of plastic.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Better Plastic Sandwich Bags like Ziploc These products were sent off to an EPA-certified laboratory and found to have no detection of organic fluorine.

Debbie Meyer Green Bags — non-detect organic fluorine

Ziploc Sandwich Bags — non-detect organic fluorine.

So a better “alternative” to Ziploc bags is Ziploc bags. This study synthesis was written by a someone that needs to retake some high school writing courses.

[–] Classy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Or they're a master at rhetorical argumentation and wrote it that way purposefully to send the message of, There are no better alternatives.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

That was how I took it.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I’m going to wager that SC Johnson’s legal team is going to knocking on some doors, given that this article says the word “ziploc” several dozen times before you scroll waaaay down and read that Ziploc brand bags don’t contain PFAS.

Edit: I’m referring to the study that this article is referring to:

https://www.mamavation.com/food/plastic-sandwich-bags-ziploc-pfas-forever-chemicals.html

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The word Ziploc has fallen into the same realm as Band-aid and Kleenex.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

100%

But people who skim the first couple pages of that article are totally going to get the impression that Ziploc brand bags are a problem.

If I wrote this, I would would’ve lead with that disclaimer so that didn’t have to waste time and money dealing with lawyers.

[–] symbioticremnant@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I only see a single reference to "Ziploc" and it's in the context of not containing PFAS. Unless the article has been updated to change the references, this comment is incorrect

[–] fireweed@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I'm really confused why the If You Care brand would have been flagged for PFAS. Unless they have another product I'm unaware of, their bags are made of uncoated paper. In other words, no plastics or waxes are used to make the product. They're even home compostable. Either they're lying out their ass, their supply line is compromised, the study/reporting on the study is wrong, or...?

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

My money is on: the supply line is compromised.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Pfas is in rain, pfas in tubing, gaskets, pfas in conveyor belts

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago

Jesus fucking Christ ... 🤦🤦‍♀️🤦‍♂️

[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

These companies are trying to kill us!

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Is it even worth reporting on what has PFAS in it anymore? They're everywhere. And they'll stay everywhere, hence the 'forever chemicals' name.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 32 points 7 months ago

It's absolutely worth it. One can drastically decrease exposure if they limit the main routes like carpets, furniture and food packaging. The blood level of PFAS matters even if we're all PFAS brothers and sisters.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago

I think it is. The more awareness people have, the more solutions we'll have to work around this global fuck up we've inherited. Use glass, foil, or PFAS-free silicone food containers. Get a water filter that removes PFAS. Buy different cookware without PFAS.

The idea is to avoid exposure where possible. Currently it's impossible to avoid it entirely and this has probably been the case for years. Hopefully we can have produce and products that don't have it in the future.

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But baggies?! If it's found in such a simple product with no obvious reason to need slick waterproofing...then yeah it's in everything

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, I kind of want my plastic baggies to be waterproof.

[–] aniki@lemm.ee 10 points 7 months ago

The plastic itself is the barrier. It doesn't need any help.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

They won't stay everywhere. They're very durable, but nothing is permanent. And there are currently processes in development to break them down.

And your body will eliminate them naturally, though it takes a long time. Meanwhile, you can reduce your PFAS exposure to slow or stop any increase of accumulation.