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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 22 points 8 months ago

shocked-pikachu It’s always projection.

They’re doing it to us as well, just as they did in the previous cold war.

A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China

US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire:

The [Uyghur American Association]’s leadership consists of U.S. national security state operators including employees of the U.S. government, U.S. propaganda network Radio Free Asia, and the military-industrial complex. Past leaders of the organization include:

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Rushan Abbas, former vice president — Previously boasted in her bio of her “extensive experience working with U.S. government agencies, including Homeland Security, Department of Defense, Department of State, and various U.S. intelligence agencies.” Served the U.S. government and Bush administration’s so-called war on terror as a “consultant at Guantanamo Bay supporting Operation Enduring Freedom.” Following a disastrous publicity appearance on Reddit’s “Ask Me Anything” question and answer forum, during which participants blasted Abbas as a “CIA Asset” and U.S. government collaborator, she has attempted to scrub her biographic information from the internet. Abbas currently heads the WUC affiliate organization, Campaign for Uyghurs.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Every accusation is a confession.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm assuming every large country does this and has done this to every other country for the past like 200 years of not way longer. This is like saying the sky is blue.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

US is the one country that dominates global media though.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you mean movies and such then yea, obviously, but I'm not sure how that connected. I don't think Hollywood is the puppet of spy agencies to spread disinformation, they are more interested in making money with the least amount of investment.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Like even if Hollywood only made pure propaganda on behest of the CIA and nothing else how is it related to every major country doing disinformation campaigns as long as spy shit has been the norm? Are you saying the US is the most successful at it?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I'm saying that US enjoys disproportionate advantage in the propaganda space because US media dominates in most of the world. This is a well documented fact, and there are entire books written on this subject.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yea, I don't disagree. I'm sure any country would take advantage of that. I'm just trying to figure out if you were disagreeing with me or were you just adding a random fun fact about the US?

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm simply pointing out that while all countries obviously try to spread their influence, US enjoys a massive advantage in that regard. Saying yeah everybody does this creates a false equivalence between the sheer scale of US propaganda compared to other countries.

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The US definitely has the greatest advantage in spreading disinformation but in terms of who does it to the greatest scale would probably be Russia.

When I was young the soviet propaganda was more of a joke around here during the occupation since it was insanely obvious but currently Russia is very effective with it. They managed to basically take chunks out of 3 countries before any other country even did anything really and help quell to riots in Belarus that would have most likely lead to Russia losing dominance there.

All while the US has media dominance across the world and most countries still heavily dislike the US. In terms of effectiveness the US propaganda in their media is about as effective as the Soviet era Russian one. The US is definitely not getting their dollar value for propaganda.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The US definitely has the greatest advantage in spreading disinformation but in terms of who does it to the greatest scale would probably be Russia.

How to say you've been brainwashed by US propaganda without saying you've been brainwashed by US propaganda. 😂

[–] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, living next to Russia is a pretty good educator on that. I know there are way too many people on Lemmy who go the other direction with US exceptionalism and make the assumption that the US is the most powerful and everything bad is their fault while usually being American. I know you aren't going to believe any country does bad things that are also anti US, I'm just shouting into the void when I'm waiting for something or another to pass the time.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -1 points 8 months ago

The sheer historical ignorance required to write such a comment is frankly astounding.

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml -4 points 8 months ago

Precisely how I feel when Americans bleat about Russiagate incidentally.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

I mean I think everyone knew every big country is running these operations in the other countries. Hardly a revelation