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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 166 points 8 months ago (4 children)
[–] zcd@lemmy.ca 74 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

cokaina... todays topic, slavery

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Hyping up the stock price.

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[–] Amphobet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 133 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We already have that abundance. It's just waiting to be liberated.

[–] dylanmorgan 118 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s grifting, pure and simple. All those things may be possible but Sam Altman is spewing this line of bullshit to keep the venture capital flowing into his company.

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Exactly. As a SW engineer, I don't know how far we are from an AGI exactly, but I am confident enough Altman and openAi have no idea where to even start.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 9 points 8 months ago

As a SW engineer

I read that and immediately thought of you working in a Star Wars hangar, fixing rebel ships

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[–] mangosloth@lemmy.world 69 points 8 months ago (3 children)

The current state of capitalism will ensure the second line never sees the light of day

[–] i_have_no_enemies@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago (3 children)

deregulated capitalism is a curse on society

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[–] erwan@lemmy.ml 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We can already create enough abondance that no human starves, sleep outside or can't affotd medical treatment. Still look at the world.

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[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 57 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Abundance is already here, tons of food are destroyed and thrown out when they accidentally make too much while people are starving, there's no money in abundance, it's the artificial lack of supply that keeps prices high and profits soaring.

[–] Llewellyn@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Food isn't the only resource in the equation. Most of the resources are limited and even diminishing.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I agree but I think their point was more along the lines of "Even if we have complete abundance of everything (as in, the capabilities to produce anything in abundance), capitalists will continue to create artificial lack of supply to continue profiting off of the workers. For example, look at the food abundance we have"

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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 54 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

The first paragraph? Can't say I disagree.

Second paragraph? Delusional. Or actively deceitful. Given Altman's background, I'm leaning toward the second.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We already have abundance at scale; the rest is just greed and logistics

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 8 months ago

It's enough to look at how much stuff is available in a supermarket, or in the average, home, to know we live in an age of abundance. The problem is, is that abundance is not shared, but hoarded.

We have enough food to feed the world, we have enough production for everyone in the world to have a smartphone and internet access and electricity. We can make clothes for everyone, we can home everyone. We have enough healthcare for everyone.

By an objective measure, we have abundance, we have enough. The world is just severely mismanaging our resources and the distribution of them. Because the economy doesn't work for humans, instead humans work for the economy.

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[–] dosse91@lemmy.trippy.pizza 52 points 8 months ago

It's just bait for investors. This is the kind of crap that gets people with money and zero understanding of computers to buy stocks.

[–] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 38 points 8 months ago

The thing that keeps us from living lives of abundance is not a lack of technology.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 38 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s true—for a very exclusive interpretation of “we”.

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[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

An issue with this tweet is that we already have the capacity to do a lot. We have the technology to provide healthy and diverse diets for the entire planet and fit a cities worth of farming inside a few city blocks (vertical hydroponics/aeroponics). We have the ability to create electricity in a dozen different renewable ways. We have the ability to desalinate water creating nearly infinite fresh water, we have enough square footage in the world to easily house everyone. We have stellar education systems that we could hand out to the entire world.

Why don't we do it? Well, all these things cost money. But the issue is, there also exists staggering amounts of money across the world. The panama papers revealed just a fraction of the wealth being hoarded by just a fraction of the wealthiest people in the world (and most implicated in the panema papers weren't even too crazy, like soccer stars and business owners). There's exists tens to hundreds of trillions of dollars of wealth created by the world just floating around in billionaires bank accounts and in the coffers of world powers.

So it's not an issue of abundance coming in the near future, we have it here on earth right now.

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[–] Corngood@lemmy.ml 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I feel like AGI might be the furthest away of all those things.

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[–] iopq@lemmy.world 32 points 8 months ago

If we means the human race, it's absolutely true. There's just no mention of a timeline.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 31 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] Toribor@corndog.social 15 points 8 months ago

This reads like Musk promising everyone that his imaginary train will be faster and cheaper than everything else.

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[–] Kaput@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

Marketing...

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Every rich tech bro has convince themselves they are the savior of the world.

[–] hedidwot@lemmynsfw.com 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Great... And and will this abundance be shared or hoarded for profit like everything else that is abundant already is?

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Just put it in chatgpt I'm sure it will figure it all out

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

Sure. Just need to get a bunch of trillions hoarded away by billionaires and throw it at R&D to solve these problems and I bet it would happen.

These rich fuckers making proclamations like that yet somehow still expecting someone else to pay for the solutions.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He's not wrong. He's probably not going to be the guy leading the charge on any of that but he's not wrong.

[–] tills13@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago (2 children)

He's forgetting about the part where it'll be monetized in such a way that only the rich will benefit.

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[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 15 points 8 months ago

It's delusional. The problems we have are not caused by lack of technology and cannot be solved by new technology.

[–] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think he believes what he's saying. From his perspective AGI will be great, and a lot of people think that AI and quantum computing will have a feedback loop where AI will help us create a better quantum computer which will make a better AI and so on...

Down here in the filth though, we're going to go through mass unemployment, rapid shifts in markets, loss of privacy due to increasingly sophisticated AI powered surveillance, and complete loss of our freedom of speech.

So, all that stuff probably will happen to people like him. Just not us.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

AI will help us create a better quantum computer which will make a better AI

Current "AI" is just LLMs. They don't need some crazy quantum supercomputer. They aren't improved by more processing power.

They need a ton of data to work at a basic level. There's no reason to think that future programs will just get better on their own. Especially if a lot of data is now LLM generated. They have no capacity to learn on their own through research.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago
[–] squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's a cult. Altman is one of the TESCREAL devotees. He truly believes that he can build the electronic messiah.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

I gotta find a way to filter out techbros from my feed.

[–] monk@lemmy.unboiled.info 13 points 8 months ago

We don't even have NGI.

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

He isn't wrong, but the pathways is by taxing the absolute fuck out of billionaires

[–] V0lD@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (5 children)
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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

And who do you think will be in charge of all of these things? Lol

Cocaine is a helluva drug.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago

Aah, the innocence of 2022.. 🫠

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they’re absolutely correct we will make all of these breakthroughs, but you dear reader? will benefit from none of them

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[–] dinckelman@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I don't think most of these people realize that Earth has finite resources, and we're already running short on some of them

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[–] slowroll@r.nf 7 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] LordPassionFruit@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

Artificial General Intelligence

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 8 months ago

Adjusted Gross Income.

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