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[–] sayitghoul@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The way he says it makes perfect sense to me from a programmer point of view.

First, type of drink Second, subtype Third, whether its hot or cold

Although technically, you wouldn't have a cold earl grey tea, but still. It makes sense.

[–] Daxtron2@startrek.website 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Iced earl grey is actually really good

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[–] RoyalEngineering@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I’ve had an iced earl gray.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

But people can ask the replicator for an item any old way and it seems to work fine.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but did replicators work the same way when Picard was a young lad having his first cup of Earl Grey?

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

No replicators. Only the real thing.

Fake mother, notwithstanding.

[–] DustyNipples@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

'course it's 'ot, what you want in it?

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

“Hot Earl Grey tea.”

*saucer section rotates 180 and reattaches*

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you order English Breakfast the computer schedules your next transporter "accident."

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Is it the computer or is it this proud Irishman?

[–] OsaErisXero@kbin.run 14 points 8 months ago

Who do you think set up the computer?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Always make sure to conspicuously order Irish breakfast tea when the O’Brien is around to ensure proper transporter safety protocols.

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[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

If he finds out that you ordered a pint of Guinness cold instead of room temperature, he'll just stab you himself to be sure.

[–] orphiebaby@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Find hot-tea grey-earls in your area!

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Type/variant/temp

Makes sense to me 🤷‍♂️

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I would think a computer that can make a living person on the holodeck just by telling it to beat Data can handle "tea, Earl Grey, hot" or "Earl Grey tea, hot" or "hot Earl Grey tea."

Edit: Really, it should just know what Picard means when he says "tea" after he's done it multiple times.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago (3 children)

It's also a show from the early 90s, when talking to the computer was a fantasy. Remember how they walk around delivering tablets to people for the mail?

Little details about how technology would actually develop stand out super bad when they get close but just miss how things actually went.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's also a show from the early 90s, when talking to the computer was a fantasy.

Yeah TNG pilot literally has a character go "Oh you've never been on one of these Galaxy class ships" to Riker, after which she shows that you can ask directions from the computer. And then helpful arrows start blinking to direct Riker to the holodeck. (I don't know if those guiding lights are ever seen again in the canon. Might be, I'm too lazy to find out rn.)

Majel Barrett sounded so young, I just watched that episode a couple of days ago.

One episode of Voyager made me giggle a bit. It's a ship with "bio-neural circuitry". One cold open, there's some phenomena they want to look at, so Chakotay tells Seven who then assigns an ensign to take a pad to B'elanna in engineering with the turbolift, and then B'elanna sends a "power requisition" through another person, via a pad, to the theoretical physicist somewhere in the bowels of the ship, who then has a bit of a chat with the person delivering the pad and then enters the changes into his work station.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ud8HJgUoQs

I get that with ships that complex, you might have people at different points verifying the commands, so that it's not just automated, but since they're all connected, what's the point of physically walking the pads there?

And that episode aired in 2000.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In what I suspect was an unintentional callback, there's an episode of Strange New Worlds where the computer guides someone as well. No arrows this time, it just blinks the hall lights in a pattern.

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[–] hips_and_nips@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (5 children)

early 90s

Aliasing has been available in UNIX since the C Shell in 1978.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I doubt the makers of TNG knew a lot about UNIX.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 months ago

Obviously they have to keep the tablets in airplane mode or it might screw up the navigation system causing the Enterprise to crash into a star.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"the same procedure as last year, miss sophie?"
-"the same procedure as every year, james!"

[–] pretzelz@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, yeah. It's just like selecting from a menu. And it's disambiguating for the parser, which after using gpts is helpful. I mean he could have bound tegh to any thing I guess, so maybe it just makes the most sense to his logical mind

[–] z00s@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

This should so have been a plot point in an actual episode... saying "hot Earl grey tea" sends an encrypted distress signal on all federation frequencies

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 8 months ago

The Enterprise uses the same drinks machine as the Heart of Gold, I see

[–] Dave@lemmy.nz 31 points 8 months ago

I just assumed that he's in the habit of doing it this way after the time he said "Hot Earl..." and suddenly there was a ripped British nobleman sitting on his replicator.

[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 8 months ago (6 children)

So, having seen exactly 0 episodes of Star Trek... Can someone please explain?

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Bald guy (captain Picard) always orders his tea in a way that kind of sounds odd given how voice interfaces actually turned out. (Tea, Earl grey, hot)

Another character orders tea how we would do so now, and we learn that he orders it that way because otherwise the ship explodes.

[–] fidodo@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

But why would ordering it the other way make the ship explode?

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Your confusion is justified because using the explanations given, it's not a good joke.

There was an earlier similar joke posted that made much more sense. In a different episode of Star Trek, Beverly tells the computer to define hot as 1.9million Kelvin. This was shown in a panel of the earlier joke. So the Picard Earl Gray Hot joke becomes when Beverly asks for Hot Tea, the computer generates 1.9M Kelvin temperature tea causing the Enterprise to explode.

Unless the joke is you already have to know that whenever Beverly says "hot", the Enterprise explodes. In which case it is a very good subtle joke.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

Having seen the the first 639 episodes of Star Trek, I also don't get it.

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

I'm imagining that the other way is the ship's secret self destruct command.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 8 months ago

It's explained in a technical manual.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Be very precise with the replicator.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 6 points 8 months ago

Captain Picard always orders tea from the computer this way (Tea. Earl Grey. Hot.) The meme makes fun of why he might do that by imagining that saying it a more "natural" way is some kind of self-destruct cue.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

I've seen all of them, and I'd also like an explanation.

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[–] davidgro@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Turns out the replicator is based on Stable Diffusion.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 8 months ago (5 children)

How about just "tea" and the computer figures out the rest

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yup, just tell it that whenever he asks for tea, he wants hot Earl Grey. Maybe he liked saying the whole thing every time.

[–] mac@infosec.pub 4 points 8 months ago

Like a vocal alias

[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

I think it would just replicate the whole plant.

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

I've been perusing the technical schematics of the Enterprise and I noticed something odd.

There's no bathrooms.

When you think about it, the replicators need some kind of material to make food out of.

Put it together...

The tea earl grey is POOPIES!!!!

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