What’s wrong with being a desert dweller?
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Mohammed was a Fremen
I mean yeah, basically, the idea of being the Mahdi and convincing the desert dwelling followers of Mohammad to follow you as a revolutionary army was a big trope for a while, king of the khyber rifles type books were full of it. Dune just rewrites Paul from being actual English aristocracy to being a near identical space facsimile, likewise Bedouin and Muslim stereotypes and tropes common in adventure lit make the Fremen. Big bad is mostly anti German tropes from ww1 era novels; corpulent, perverted, and sneaky.
The great imagination in it comes from taking this fairly standard formula and going totally crazy with sand worms and Duncan clones.
Though when you look at it like this it's obvious liet kynes is actually the linchpin of his creative vision and everything else is formed around that character
He wishes he had that kind of desert power.
I surmise it’s a socioeconomic prejudice. Like the American equivalent to the slur “hick” or the epithet “back woods”.
I guess, but Moses spent 40 years wandering the desert and he doesn't get shit for it.
He was just passing through
Died just before the exit ramp.
He's unknown so I can't worship him properly...
Obi-Wan wants a word with you.
I say unto thee, takest the high ground, for then your foe shall know it's over before they strike
Book of Anakin, 2:7
Id fuckin' read that!
He was pretending to be a regular dude named Ben. Probably not the best example of being known..
Not the Allah you're looking for
Not enough water and it is too hot.
There are mirages in the desert
Phase Seven: Executed because leaving Islam is punishable by death
Ye of little faith must execute thosen of even lessen faith in order to show them how strong is all y’all’s ye faith is
You forgot the phases of going back.
"Shit it's rough out here, better stick with what I know."
Jesus was a desert dweller too. And so were the Jews. And the Egyptians, though their thing kinda got phased out. Did Joseph Smith ever spend time in a desert? The Buddha sat under a tree, but whatever.
Hm maybe OP's pointing out a possible conspiracy by desert dwellers to push monotheism :)
Yeah, turns out Christianism and Judaism are great. Funnily enough, the guy that sat under a tree was the one who said something in the lines of “you know, check it out if it makes sense before joining in”.
Looks like toasting under the sun and eating sand is no good to people’s brains.
The fiction that was Jesus did live in a desert region.
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Islam is just a fork of Christianity which is itself a fork of Judaism.
Humans been forking well before git was invented
There's not really a set number of phases for leaving or entering a religion. As an aside, there isn't actually a fixed set of stages for grief either. People's journeys through life vary. I also see people repeating the most conservative interpretations of Islam here. People interpret and experience religion differently. Don't cite the most conservative interpretation as the one true interpretation, you're only giving them more credit than they deserve.
There is a study which says you are most likely to become agnostic/atheist if you grew up with parents who are not very religious. It was posted on Reddit and I did not read the study, but my guess it's because you're not being exposed to religious teachings. The findings corroborate my personal experience. My family and I pretty much stopped going to church nearly twenty years ago. My parents are believers but not devoted, although my mother watches televised mass.
My siblings and I then just do things on our own, and from our own readings on the topic along with others, we all became non-believers independent from each other. I am agnostic (I don't believe that deities in mainstream human religion exist but I do not discount the possibility of magical beings existing if evidence is presented) but my siblings are fully atheists.
I believe it. People like me who grew up in a devout household and are atheists now are the weird ones. I can almost tell by sight at every atheist event I go to. The ones that look like they have seen hell vs the ones that were lucky.
I didn't want to cause a whole thing because I have better things to do with my life than get offended but the last atheist event I went to someone asked me if I was considered introducing my kids to some diet religion type deal for "community" like Methodist or Baha'i or reformed Judaism. It just popped in my head that you might as well ask a homosexual who was forced into conversion therapy to "at least try dating the other gender and see where it goes".
Now again I didn't react the way I secretly wanted to I just told him that I think we are fine but I so wanted to bite his head off. I clawed my way out of that shit and no way anyone is inflicting it on my children.
Growing up I only ever saw church and religion on TV and never really thought much of it. One day as kids my mom pulled my brother and I aside and asked us, "It doesn't really make any sense for there to be a bearded man in the sky, does it?" That's all I really needed to hear to be science-minded for the rest of my life.
I'm a little jealous of people who grew up with church communities though. There's lots of good people out there, even if it's for the wrong reasons.
Don't be jealous of us. Not when I sometimes wake up at night from a dream when I am in hell or can just sit there for hours replaying the repeated physical abuse and it takes everything I have to not track those people down and "have a conversation with them".
The recovery from religion foundation has been a big help.
That makes sense, though there are also people who were brought up in strictly religious households and still came out being agnostic/atheist. It's partially statistics, but I wouldn't describe the process as a strict set of phases.
Oh yes, of course. I'm not saying otherwise. But that study showed contrary to popular belief that strict religiosity and bad experience of it makes someone atheist or agnostic, the less religiously strict an upbringing is, the more likely the person would become non-believer. Then on the flip side, strict religious upbringing could make someone more so. Human individuals are complicated and there is still deviations but the trend is still present and strong.
Phase 7: I just like feeling the pressure on my legs, I'm not wearing these for a fetish or anything.
Evidence shows all religions are made up by delusional people
Every ex-muslim atheist I have met in my life I feel the urge to give a hug to. They got it bad. It is a lot easier for me to never set foot in a church again.
I got a standing thing. If you are an ex-muslim atheist and in my city let me know and I will buy you a beer and a BLT.
My mother has been in phase one but with Christianity for about 15 years now.
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