No contract and meeting at an ASDA is a red flag to me.
this post was submitted on 07 Mar 2024
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Oh I agree with you, I started recording the call when I got a weird vibe but got no sound out of it.Meeting at an Asda is because it's halfway between each of us, and seeing how tiny the company is, I think they just wont bother with contracts. At the Asda he will give me the flyers, so, I don't have to print them myself with my money
Are you between 18 and 20. If you are 21 or over. 7.50 is legally way to low. But almost exactly minimum wage for 18 to 20. Do not accept below due to no contract. It makes no difference.
Record everything. Even if its self written notes about hour conversations and promises. Ensure you have some form of time sheet. Even if you write your own and give him a copy.
No contract is likely a way to evade paying the employer share of NI and avoid paying your share of taxes. Technically you would be working as a sole trader. So technically would have to pay it yourself. If he tells you your a sole trader/contractor. He is avoiding his NI not evading. Ie legally. But it means you pay more. Assuming you follow the rules.
Not to complex if you decide to do it. Gov sites give lots of guidance. But you want much more then min wage.
Odds are high. He is actually in the same situation and working under the table.
i am over 21 so i'll keep that in mind. Recorded audio of us meeting, pay will be cash or bank transfer every two weeks, I'll ask for bank transfers to have a proof. He wants us to send a picture of where we give the flyers and to send him from when to when we are working. I'll be doing this for about 3 months max if everything goes right so I should be gaining around 300 pounds max in total, I think I don't need to pay taxes for this little?
It's really targeted at people who want to stay "off the books" or not pay any taxes, so is what it is. If you're getting paid cash up front then there's not too much issue for you.
Technically, you have an employee - employer contact by law automatically, and they legally need to provide you with a letter stating certain terms within x days of the start date. I can't remember exact details.
They should also be putting you through payroll, deducting taxes (if needed), and paying employers NI. Someone else mentioned the need to pay you minimum wage by law
These are all additional costs to them so if you raise it as an issue with them, I'd say they will cut you out and block you. You're unlikely to get any authority to really care, especially if they keep a low profile for this purpose.
It might be a good idea to personally tell the tax authority about your earnings (ignoring the employer) and keep track of it. If in a tax year (April to March) you earn less then £5k you won't pay any NI and less than £12.5k you won't pay any income tax. It's quite straightforward to do and if you're not paying tax then no real cost. However, you could also easily get away with doing nothing, especially if they pay you cash and there's no real record. Feel free to message me to ask any more questions about tax.
I just made a follow up post but a TLDR is I won't have to show any income :(
Are you selling flyers, or just handing them out to people? Selling flyers sounds a bit weird.
Distributing flyers for people in exchange for a tiny amount of cash seems quite normal - a lot of pubs/venues/small charitable organisations used to do it. If it's a tiny organisation, it wouldn't be worth a contract, it's such a tiny amount of money.
Distributing Flyers you are right sorry! I'll fix this right now!
Get paid up front and I don't see much of an issue.