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We need to jump on this shady BS.

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[–] S50nb@lemmy.radio 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If wallstreet is going to pump 20Kw into my hamband I will pump 20kw of communist propaganda music back at em

[–] agentsquirrel@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I think you can still buy time on WBCQ, much cheaper than standing up a new station....

[–] profdc9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, perhaps the ARRL will let their members know about the petitioning period. Maybe a week before. And then they will draft a sternly worded letter to the FCC saying "pul-lease don't!" And then claim credit for any and all concessions made.

[–] agentsquirrel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And undoubtedly ARRL will cite "potential interference" to emergency HF amateur radio communications in its opposition, as they do with all FCC filings. While I consider high speed trading to be a lousy opportunistic/predatory product of end-stage capitalism, there is probably no technically-supported opposition to this use of the shortwave bands, assuming it's unused frequencies and they comply with existing regulations for spurious emissions, human exposure safety, etc. SW broadcast stations have been operating for years in these bands at very high power levels. It's been in such decline that there's only a few pay-to-pray stations left, and of course overseas banana republic stations.

It should be noted that high speed traders have been using licensed Part 101 microwave links in the US for years. I've heard anecdotally that they gut the radios to remove most of the baseband electronics in repeater sites in order to have the minimal amount of propagation time. It makes money for someone but sure seems like a waste of equipment, steel, and radio spectrum, resources that could be used for humankind elsewhere.....

[–] profdc9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Even a parasite has gotta eat.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am guessing by adjacent to amature bands.

They are looking at some of the sw broadcast bands. As they are starting to die out as an industry.

Anyone know what power level was allowed/common during the height of sw broadcast radio.

Also worth asking what their real goal is. I may sound conspiracy like. But I question to value on a network like this for stock traders. What would a sw data network give them. That they do not already have at better reliability with world Internet and corperations like starlink.

[–] VE3MAL@lemmy.radio 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's about being able to watch transactions on, say the west coast, then buy or sell in NYSE before those transactions can traverse the Internet across the continent and change the price. It would be very simple "buy now" commands, used to essentially cheat less resource rich traders. They have used dedicated fiber lines try to do the same thing, but this would be quicker sometimes. There's absolutely no public value to it, but money to be extracted.

[–] TrojanHam@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Kind of points out the lie of a "fair market." They like to hold that with the same information, everyone can make informed decisions. That claim breaks down when you're getting the information before your competitors.

How would this be any different from the horse racing/sporting event betting scams organized crime ran in the early 20th century? It's only faster. Where mobsters where relying on telecast delays and fixed games, these organizations are hoping to rely on RF transmissions and insider trading.

How long until the bitcoin grifters try to take HF spectrum? They're already trying on VHF/UHF and some are using frequencies which hand the potential to interfere with emergency services, etc.

I'm against this shit, in case anyone was wondering.

[–] Dusty@l.dusty-radio.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sure the ARRL will fight this tooth and nail right? .... right?!?

[–] TrojanHam@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

They're "reviewing" the petition.

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