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[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

Serious, honest question: why are we bringing gender into this?

I've never considered the idea of one gender being any more likely to commit piracy than any other. Is there some kind of piracy subgroup of people in Indonesia or elsewhere who claim men are more likely to pirate music than other genders, particular women?

Again, this is a serious question, with no malicious subtext. I'm genuinely wondering where in the hell this question came from, because it seems to me like it came out of nowhere.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 47 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Because statistics and demographics are interesting :)

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The article asks a similar question: The researchers do not attempt to explain these differences. However, they show once again that ‘dated’ gender stereotypes don’t always match with reality. And when they have little explanatory value, one can question whether gender is even relevant in a piracy context.

Excellent little excerpt. I really appreciate you pointing it out. Thank you. :)

[–] Prunebutt 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Since gender studies is an academic field and students do be writing theses, these things will pop up every once in a while, without any specific ideological reason.

Most likely, some statistics/gender studies student/postdoc wanted to take a look into the data and this is what came out at the other end.

That seems reasonable to me. :)

[–] d_ohlin@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

There was a study I read not too long ago that found the pre-movie anti piracy warning actually acted sort of reverse psychology on men, causing them to actually pirate more (as opposed to women). There have definitely been some gender-correlations in certain studies.

[–] redcalcium@lemmy.institute 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Those scary fbi warnings are probably not so scary in Indonesia so there is no reverse psychology on men there.

[–] Thorned_Rose@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe break down by gender could be related to how accessible technology is to genders based on barriers like sexism and gender-based hostility? A bit like how IT jobs have less women (despite things like the first programmers being women and it originally being a "woman's job"), non-binary folk and tend to be male-dominated? You have to ask why something that shouldn't have a gender bias is gendered. In this instance, I would be looking at why there's a difference between Western/W.E.I.R.D. countries and Indonesia - what in Indonesia is making it more accessible to women when the reverse is true in countries known to be hostile to non-males in the technology world.

(Possibly I have way overcomplicated what I'm trying to say lol but I'm a bit sick at the moment so not easy to think through a woolly head).

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

Also, what's "W.E.I.R.D." mean in this context? I've never seen that acronym before.

[–] miracleorange@beehaw.org 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's used in academia, especially social sciences to represent the demographic usually studied: western, educated, industrialized, rich, democratic.

I see. Thank you for teaching me. :)

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml -5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

As someone that has issues with some of the woke crap going around, I have to wonder the same. What does gender have to do with any of this?

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

the woke crap

Aaaaaand that's where you lost me.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml -4 points 8 months ago

I figured that would bring that sentiment to some. It is what it is.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As someone who has issues with rigt wing dog whistles, you can fuck right off with your bullshit

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago

Love it. Were all getting along as usual. 🤣🤣

[–] amanaftermidnight@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 3 points 8 months ago

My first thought too. That, and K-Pop. There are a lot of hardcore fans throughout SEA who don't have the income required to legally access all the content released by and/or featuring their favourite stars.

[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Translation: if you want a chill woman move to Indonesia..

[–] owen@lemmy.ca 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Fixed writed it in Spanish, thx for the correction mate 👍👍

[–] OozingPositron@feddit.cl 8 points 8 months ago

Women. 🏴‍☠️

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 7 points 8 months ago

As usual, price and convenience are the biggest reasons people pirate.

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[–] turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

Indonesian women are based.

[–] bin_bash@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

nice womens 😄

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Idk that this is just Indonesia lol.

Women be on them seas

[–] downpunxx@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Would You Pirate A Man